| 01:14 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 07:09 | kms | #khi
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| 08:25 | se6astian | good morning
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| 08:49 | mithro | Bertl_zZ: I look at the mDP thing on the weekend, it was at the stage of trying to figure out the pin outs
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| 08:54 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 08:58 | davidak | good morning
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| 09:00 | Bertl | mithro: okay, tx
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| 09:04 | mithro | Bertl: As you have the axiom side done now, it makes it easier to finish the Opsis side, most of the were I was stuck was figuring out how to balance Opsis<->axiom verses Opsis<->Opsis verses axiom<->axiom using the same design
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| 09:05 | Bertl | the question is, if it wouldn't be simpler to make an Opsis -> Axiom 2x PCIE-36 adapter
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| 09:05 | Bertl | because then all the AXIOM Plugins can be used, including the 3xmDP one
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| 09:08 | mithro | Bertl: that is what I was wondering
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| 12:01 | mithro | Bertl: Can you take a look at the following? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15rivtOcSG4kqKf0AUK_OwBfs67XQtW8byr8kc5FUTgE/edit#gid=1654125645
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| 12:10 | mithro | Bertl: if the ""apertus pins mapped to TOFE header" section looks okay, it should be pretty trivial to finish off doing a Opsis->Axiom adapter
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| 12:10 | mithro | Bertl: the hard part is the mechanical design....
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| 12:11 | tyrone | hi all
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| 12:13 | Bertl | mithro: the only difference I can see on the AXIOM pinout is that VCC should be N_VCC and S_VCC as they can differ
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| 12:13 | Bertl | (similar with V_I2C -> N_V_I2C and S_V_I2C
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| 12:13 | Bertl | )
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| 12:14 | Bertl | but that should not matter for an adapter, you can supply both with the same rail
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| 12:15 | tyrone | hey bertl i have a small question, at the embedded world you said it would be nice to have a pcb/gerber viewer whats the main target rendering in blender or webgl viewing?
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| 12:15 | Bertl | both would be nice of course
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| 12:16 | mithro | Bertl: have you seend http://gerblook.org/?
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| 12:16 | tyrone | and other wishes? a six pack of beer? :-)
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| 12:16 | Bertl | personally I'd say webgl is more important as long as we can produce some STL (or similar) which can be imported into blender + co
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| 12:16 | Bertl | tyrone: world peace please :)
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| 12:17 | mithro | s/seend/seen/
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| 12:18 | tyrone | ohh thats a easy task :-D
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| 12:18 | Bertl | mithro: no, not yet, what does it take as "gerber files"?
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| 12:18 | tyrone | backend wise is it okey when you need some backend software? or only javascript?
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| 12:19 | mithro | Bertl: yes
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| 12:20 | Bertl | "yes" is as helpful as the page, it doesn't take zip or tar.bz2 archives, so much I already know :)
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| 12:21 | Bertl | always says: couldn't find top soldermask layer
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| 12:22 | Bertl | same with individual gerber files, I guess they have to have a special names
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| 12:26 | Bertl | tyrone: what do you mean by backend?
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| 12:28 | Bertl | note that it is fine if it is a conversion, i.e. you input board designs, part libraries, 3D models (parts) and then run some tool which makes nice 3D models of the entire PCB
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| 12:28 | Bertl | the "model" then can be used for blender or webgl (so the idea)
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| 12:32 | tyrone | there are two ways todo make the complete conversion from gerber to mesh data in javascript runs in the webbrowser second one should be a smaller tast use on the server some software (Kicad) that loads gerber and creates 3d mesh(stl or obj) and load that data on the web viewer.
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| 12:32 | tyrone | tast -> task
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| 12:42 | Bertl | well, in general, the gerber data is not sufficient
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| 12:43 | Bertl | it does the trick for unpopulated boards but not for populated ones
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| 12:43 | Bertl | you need at least some kind of placement data/list and 3D models for the parts
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| 12:47 | tyrone | i was thinking to use kicad in the backend so i don't have to deal with all the file formats and try to get the best output format or create a custom export. i have seen something of a obj export but i'm not sure if it's still working.
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| 12:49 | tyrone | small offset question the axiom beta the module slot are they pmod compatible? (when there is a adapter board of cause)
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| 12:53 | Bertl | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kB2eMIg3bZ0/VW7VM0NSEVI/AAAAAAAAAog/mHaqjEjNn_Y/s1600/beta-cabled.jpg
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| 12:53 | Bertl | you can see the Triple PMOD Dual Slot Plugin here
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| 12:53 | Bertl | no idea why it isn't on the wiki yet, se6astian?
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| 12:54 | Bertl | or maybe it is and I just can't find it :)
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| 12:54 | Bertl | https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/lJ90ygq1
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| 12:54 | tyrone | ahh cool just haven't seen it :-)
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| 12:56 | Bertl | we even used it at the last Linuxwochen for HDMI output :)
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| 12:56 | tyrone | because of your idea with the storage system i haven seen this: http://store.digilentinc.com/pmodsd-sd-card-slot/ and there are so many other modules....
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| 12:56 | Bertl | https://www.apertus.org/sites/default/files/GEZ_2594.jpg
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| 12:56 | Bertl | yeah, we also had some PMOD modules from the Alpha, so it was one of the first plugin modules to create
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| 12:57 | tyrone | nice :-)
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| 13:02 | davidak | the original with the pink cable :D
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| 13:03 | Bertl | more interesting are the two I2C pullups in the MicroZed PMOD header :)
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| 13:03 | Bertl | (which we had forgotten on the PCBs back then :)
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| 13:06 | tyrone | well at least i know now you are not 100% perfect..... :-)
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| 13:07 | Bertl | :)
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| 13:47 | mithro | Bertl: I thought the gerblook person had merged my change which made it find kicad output automatically...
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| 13:49 | Bertl | well, I tried the gerbers I made for OSHpark, and they are not understood
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| 13:49 | Bertl | but I found the patterns in the FAQ :)
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| 14:34 | RexOr2 | You can almost feel people stopping and saying to themselves "Hold on... This looks pretty good."
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| 14:42 | RexOr2 | http://s16.postimg.org/ukwxs9kpx/Screenshot_2016_03_08_14_38_09.png
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| 14:42 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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| 17:03 | RexOr2 | Re: Stills - Thanks se6astian.
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| 17:12 | se6astian | you are welcome
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| 22:19 | Bertl_oO | nn
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| 22:47 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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