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08:05 | se6ast1an | good day
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08:05 | se6ast1an | another working week starts with no noticable difference between weekend or weekdays :)
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08:57 | BAndiT1983 | se6ast1an: depends on how you arrange your home office ;)
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09:05 | se6ast1an | https://www.neondystopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/screens.jpg
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11:02 | Bertl | morning folks!
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11:02 | Bertl | se6ast1an: where did you get a picture of my room? :)
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11:29 | se6ast1an | you are secretely living in my flat?!?!
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12:17 | BAndiT1983 | se6ast1an: probably like Richmod from IT crowd in a forgotten storage room ;)
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12:18 | se6ast1an | ah yes, I wondered already about "that" door!
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12:19 | BAndiT1983 | and he is listening to cradle of filth, now you can count 1 and 1 together, parallels are obvious
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12:24 | se6ast1an | its not an actual cradle of filth is it? that would be awful!
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12:25 | BAndiT1983 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRoSL0kdQFk
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12:51 | Bertl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2sDdNQE0HE
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12:52 | BAndiT1983 | lets see how many people here will get cardiac arrest because of this :D
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13:27 | se6ast1an | https://assortedhackery.com/patching-cam-link-to-play-nicer-on-linux/
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13:39 | BAndiT1983 | nice
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15:00 | se6ast1an | meeting in 1h!
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16:00 | se6ast1an | meeting time!
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16:00 | se6ast1an | who is here?
| 16:00 | Bertl | is here ...
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16:01 | RexOrCine | I'll report.
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16:02 | se6ast1an | great, rex would you like to start?
| 16:02 | metal_dent[m] | is here
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16:02 | RexOrCine | k
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16:03 | RexOrCine | I don't normally talk about activities. In fact, I'm not sure I've ever talked about what I do in any detail (of course things are always logged, but it's for my eyes only normally), so this might be interesting.
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16:03 | preetimenghwani[ | *preetimenghwani is here..
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16:03 | RexOrCine | Lost some days in the last week of March unfortunately but the following are...
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16:03 | RexOrCine | _
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16:04 | RexOrCine | Completed:
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16:04 | RexOrCine | General direct promotion (conducted daily in one way or another).
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16:04 | RexOrCine | General indirect promotion - This is other, seemingly non-related networks I build alongside which often have greater readership numbers (equates to double exposure normally).
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16:04 | RexOrCine | Network gardening - Involves numerous tasks e.g. identifying individuals from key demographics and mag-publishers and following. Normally around 3 hours a week are dedicated to this over various channels.
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16:04 | RexOrCine | Significant general updates to Wiki.
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16:05 | RexOrCine | Power Board photo - Consumed weeks of attention.
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16:05 | RexOrCine | GSoC promo - Can't be conducted too often as there are protocols involved with the promotion of anything on third-party sites and within neighbouring/related communities. Wanted this done sooner, but managed to complete drive 3/3 across 29th and 30th of March.
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16:05 | RexOrCine | AEGBP - V3 of all feature cards (feature cards are https://wiki.apertus.org/images/a/a9/ABFC-00-PB-002-_AXIOM_Beta_Power_Board_V0.30R1.0_Features_3000_2.png).
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16:05 | RexOrCine | AEGBP - General works.
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16:05 | RexOrCine | Local archive restructuring.
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16:06 | RexOrCine | Lock-down recruitment card and respective drive Stage 1/3 - The purpose of drives change. Normally try and hunt for sales once every 6-8 weeks but we're not selling cameras right now so this hasn't been done for a while. Although, admittedly I did do this once this week Re the following.
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16:06 | RexOrCine | Reach expansion and respective promo inside new networks.
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16:06 | RexOrCine | Negotiating Re acquisition of new, highly concentrated key networks. Didn't like the price. Would have meant significant growth of existing networks. Unless they're given to me, we've had that (there's a slim chance they might be).
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16:07 | RexOrCine | Market/brand/presentation research.
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16:07 | RexOrCine | _
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16:07 | RexOrCine | Ongoing:
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16:07 | RexOrCine | ABB4 - Works have been ongoing for a long time, a year probably. 30% maybe? The long duration is more about specific elements gradually completing and being accumulated as opposed to doc construction (which is by no means trivial).
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16:07 | RexOrCine | Enclosure component photos - many of these have completed.
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16:07 | RexOrCine | Camera photo x1 (20/40 hours estimated).
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16:07 | RexOrCine | _
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16:07 | RexOrCine | Scheduled:
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16:07 | RexOrCine | Lock-down recruitment drive Stage 2/3.
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16:08 | RexOrCine | Liberapay account data.
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16:08 | RexOrCine | apertus.org AXIOM Beta overview page.
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16:08 | RexOrCine | Camera photos.
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16:08 | RexOrCine | Ground-work on federated community social channels (Blocked - requires an environment server-side, inside which a Peertube instance etc can be optimised, being set-up. Requested 25.03.20)
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16:08 | RexOrCine | Accumulation of annual marketing budget data.
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16:08 | RexOrCine | GSoC hand-written letters (and scanning thereof).
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16:08 | RexOrCine | Elmyra promo and recruitment drive.
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16:09 | RexOrCine | Team Talk outro ident.
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16:09 | RexOrCine | ABB4.
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16:09 | RexOrCine | Concept work on announcement texture standards.
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16:09 | RexOrCine | Mechanical assembly Wiki page.
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16:09 | RexOrCine | New Remote promo card.
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16:09 | RexOrCine | Micro promo card.
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16:09 | RexOrCine | Scattered PCB photo shoot.
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16:09 | RexOrCine | _
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16:09 | RexOrCine | Advisory notes:
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16:10 | RexOrCine | Federated socials - There's a massive amount of work involved for me with this, but the longer that the ground goes without preparation the more momentum is lost. This will cost sales and contributions in the long term.
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16:10 | RexOrCine | Having the environment established server-side so I can bring people in to work on admin is important. Need to create systems that aid potential contributors.
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16:11 | RexOrCine | apertus.org menu - again, there's too much stuff there and it should be thinned down... but under 'About' the page 'Hardware contributions' is still listed. This has long since been abandoned when I combined it with a 'Sponsors and Benefactors' page. So there's one item we can loose easily.
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16:11 | RexOrCine | Sample files - There's one item noticeably absent, and that's the liquid metal and aluminium smelting files. It would be good if we could have these listed here for posterity's sake - https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/AXIOM_Beta/Video
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16:11 | RexOrCine | _
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16:11 | RexOrCine | That's it from my side. The completed items were the result of a 60 hour work week, which is fairly typical for me, as are the items listed.
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16:11 | Bertl | wow, you had a busy week!
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16:11 | Bertl | btw. I see the power board renders are still not on the wiki pages ... how come?
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16:14 | bluez_[m] | * bluez_ is here..
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16:14 | se6ast1an | thanks for the report rex, good to see you also start to share what you are doing!
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16:15 | se6ast1an | I remember you said that you have a local copy of this picture with all errors fixed: https://wiki.apertus.org/images/a/a9/ABFC-00-PB-002-_AXIOM_Beta_Power_Board_V0.30R1.0_Features_3000_2.png - would be good to also get the online version fixed
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16:17 | se6ast1an | RexOrCine: are you still here?
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16:17 | RexOrCine | That's a typical week.
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16:18 | se6ast1an | right lets discuss the mentioned questions later then
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16:18 | se6ast1an | BAndiT1983: any news on your side?
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16:18 | RexOrCine | (17:14:36) se6ast1an: thanks for the report rex, good to see you also start to share what you are doing! < Let's see if I can keep it up. Things tend not to change much and it's not all that interesting.
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16:19 | RexOrCine | Oh. Is that the bad version. It will be yeah. Thing is those feature cards aren't stored anywhere public aside from socials. We don't actually host them on wiki or .org. That image was an exception .
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16:19 | RexOrCine | But yes Sebastian is right. That was an early version. It's been fixed.
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16:19 | se6ast1an | great, should be a quick fix to replace the image version on the wiki then
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16:20 | se6ast1an | BAndiT1983: occupied currently it seems, metal_dent[m] do you want to talk about your last week/progress?
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16:20 | RexOrCine | PSD - Don't know anything about PB renders.... Go ahead.
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16:20 | RexOrCine | PS*
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16:21 | ashok_singh[m] | *is here....
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16:21 | se6ast1an | RexOrCine: Bertl emailed 3 sets of two images at the time of the different powerboard versions
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16:21 | se6ast1an | preetimenghwani[: & bluez_[m] do you want to share/report anything?
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16:22 | se6ast1an | ashok_singh[m]: anything to report from your progress?
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16:23 | metal_dent[m] | se6ast1an: sure, as you know Bertl made groups and have given us task to present so we three (bluez_ , me and ashok_singh ) made a separate grp and there we're discussing and till now we're researching
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16:23 | RexOrCine | Note: That account is only a partial insight into tasks. Will look into PB renders.
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16:25 | se6ast1an | thanks metal_dent[m], anything else?
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16:25 | preetimenghwani[ | se6ast1an: As of now we are divided into groups I and Dest123 are in one group, We have discussed about our challenge tasks and have started reviewing it.
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16:25 | bluez_[m] | yes.. currently our group is working on reading about axiom beta main board... we are also learning about beamer presentation and LaTeX
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16:26 | bluez_[m] | I have also been researching about the gsoc project
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16:27 | preetimenghwani[ | I have also installed Lattice diamond and started working on the makefile.
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16:27 | metal_dent[m] | > thanks metal_dent, anything else?
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16:27 | metal_dent[m] | no, that's it from my side :)
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16:27 | ashok_singh[m] | se6ast1an: as metal_dent said we are done with organising stuff and we have started working on task given by bertl i.e. reading and preparing presentation about axim beta main board.
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16:27 | se6ast1an | sounds good
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16:28 | se6ast1an | I did not expect that many participants today, sorry for the slight chaos
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16:28 | se6ast1an | next week I will ask everyone who wants to report to send me a direct message and I will create a list of speakers so everyone can go one after the other
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16:29 | se6ast1an | vup, anuejn anything to share from your side?
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16:29 | vup | Not much, we continued working on the micro r3 schematic
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16:30 | se6ast1an | are the schematics in a stage that could already be shared?
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16:31 | vup | And started developing a simple loopback test to evaluate different connector choices in regard to high speed signals
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16:32 | vup | ://github.com/axiom-micro/mainboard/tree/r3 should always be roughly up to date
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16:32 | vup | Whoops https://github.com/axiom-micro/mainboard/tree/r3?files=1
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16:33 | vup | But currently only in horizon-eda format, but we can start to add pdf's for the schematics periodically
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16:33 | se6ast1an | that would be cool
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16:33 | BAndiT1983 | how is horizon eda?
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16:36 | se6ast1an | anything else vup?
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16:37 | vup | Hmm I think my mobile connection swallowed some messages, will add some more detail when i am back home
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16:37 | vup | So thats it from me i guess
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16:37 | vup | https://files.niemo.de/micro_r3_overview.pdf
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16:37 | Bertl | the loopback tests sound interesting ... we should chat about that later ...
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16:37 | vup | Bertl: sure
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16:38 | se6ast1an | thanks vup, great
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16:38 | se6ast1an | BAndiT1983: can you give us a brief rund down of things that you worked on?
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16:38 | BAndiT1983 | germany and mobile connection is like fire and water or the game of hide and seek
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16:38 | BAndiT1983 | yes
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16:39 | BAndiT1983 | had quite some other stuff to do at home besides apertus, because of slight self-quarantine, but was working on improvements of the firmware and PCB script
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16:39 | BAndiT1983 | firmware: trying to simplify drawing code of the text and settings menu
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16:40 | BAndiT1983 | PCB script: optimizations, reducing of duplicated code, bottom layer and other pad types
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16:40 | BAndiT1983 | also was playing around with the idea of blender plugin which uses gerber files for generation of realistic PCB material and geometry
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16:40 | BAndiT1983 | other than that gsoc preparations
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16:40 | BAndiT1983 | that's it
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16:40 | se6ast1an | many thanks!
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16:41 | se6ast1an | Bertl: do you have news to share and want to go next?
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16:41 | Bertl | sure
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16:42 | Bertl | besides the usual daily work and rework (btw, we got an HDMI module reworked and tested basically ready for posting)
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16:43 | se6ast1an | excellent!
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16:43 | Bertl | I've spent some quality time going through the GSoC applications and chatting with the applicants
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16:43 | Bertl | as you noticed, we also started working in groups to prepare for the upcoming GSoC tasks
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16:45 | Bertl | most of the other available time was spent on advancing the PCB probe unit
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16:45 | Bertl | there were some minor issues with the mechanical attachment and how to wire everything properly without losing any features
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16:45 | Bertl | (or flexibility FWIW)
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16:46 | Bertl | but it looks very promising and completion is almost here
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16:46 | Bertl | I also started getting all the parts together for the new Axiom Remote board (and the remote remote board of course :)
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16:47 | se6ast1an | did you 3d print the remot remote holder already?
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16:47 | Bertl | not yet
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16:47 | se6ast1an | ok
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16:48 | Bertl | and I'm working on a setup to allow remote access to the Beta(s) and Remote
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16:48 | Bertl | (which will become important when GSoC starts)
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16:49 | Bertl | that's it from my side for this week (as far as I can remember :)
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16:50 | se6ast1an | many thanks!
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16:50 | se6ast1an | quick updates from me
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16:50 | se6ast1an | pcb panel supplier inquiries ongoing
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16:51 | se6ast1an | one has been eliminated as there was no high speed material option in the end that would suit our needs
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16:51 | Bertl | (plain old FR4 is just not suitable for 1GHz or above)
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16:52 | se6ast1an | I spent most time on the CAD design front in the last week
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16:52 | se6ast1an | the result can be seen here
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16:52 | se6ast1an | https://cloud.apertus.org/index.php/apps/gallery/s/LqkCfTLRJYd9wFB#Nato%20Rail%20Concept/cad10.jpg
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16:52 | se6ast1an | https://cloud.apertus.org/index.php/apps/gallery/s/LqkCfTLRJYd9wFB#Nato%20Rail%20Concept/cad11.jpg
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16:52 | se6ast1an | https://cloud.apertus.org/index.php/apps/gallery/s/LqkCfTLRJYd9wFB#Nato%20Rail%20Concept/dovetail-slider01.jpg
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16:53 | se6ast1an | which features the new dove tail slider plate concept: https://cloud.apertus.org/index.php/apps/gallery/s/LqkCfTLRJYd9wFB#dove%20tail
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16:53 | se6ast1an | what I am currently unsure is if we should design our own NP-F battery plate
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16:54 | se6ast1an | or use an existing one - most candidates I found seem like all plastic and rather bad quality...
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16:54 | se6ast1an | Tilta has a proper one: https://tilta.com/shop/f970-battery-plate/
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16:55 | se6ast1an | but I couldnt find much information about the screws/dimensions, etc...
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16:55 | se6ast1an | or cabling
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16:55 | se6ast1an | thats it from me
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16:55 | se6ast1an | anyone who wants to still report/discuss anything, now is the opportunity?
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16:58 | se6ast1an | great, thanks everyone! meeting concluded
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18:36 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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19:13 | vup | ok I am home now, I added a quick pdf export of the current schematic, but note that currently everything is still quite WIP and also the export is suboptimal, as a lot of stuff is cut off, I will rearange stuff a bit and do a better export later
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19:13 | vup | for now: https://github.com/axiom-micro/mainboard/blob/r3/micro_rev3/micro_rev3.pdf
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19:15 | vup | BAndiT1983: re horizon-eda: It has been mostly great so far, I think the package, entity, part, unit, symbol, padstack distinction horizon uses it quite useful
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19:16 | vup | it has nice builtin generators for a lot of different footprint styles (like bga, qfn, qfp and so on)
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19:17 | vup | Also all different editors use the same base class, so for example keybindings and the different tools that are available are the same across the schematic editor, symbol editor, the board editor and so on
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19:18 | vup | Also one thing that might seem small, but has been really useful for me is, that its user interface is optimized for laptop usage, so using it with a trackpoint and without a mouse has been a treat so far
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19:19 | vup | of course one of the biggest disadvantages is, that the part library is nowhere as huge as kicad's, so we pretty much had to drawn every footprint / symbol ourselves
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19:21 | vup | also nearly every part (apart from resistors and capacitors so far) is supposed to be a specific orderable part, which makes bom generation easy, and also every part has a link to its datasheet, so with a single click you get the datasheet from the schematic / board editor
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19:21 | vup | which is quite nice
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19:22 | vup | finally the developer is also really responsive, which is very nice
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19:25 | vup | Bertl_oO: you wanted to talk about the loopback test we are building?
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19:28 | BAndiT1983 | vup: sounds interesting, looking forward to further results when you will approach ordering the PCBs
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19:42 | vup | yeah I am curious how board layout will go with it, but as it uses the kicad push and shove router probably decent
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