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| 17:15 | intracube | can someone confirm that jumping to wiki sub-sections causes several lines to be obscured: https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/AXIOM_Beta/AXIOM_Beta_Hardware#Lens_Mounts
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| 17:34 | RexOrCine[m] | Negative. Tried it all sorts of ways on two browsers and it seems fine (mobile)
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| 17:39 | Bertl_oO | yup, can confirm it ... most likely the static header is not accounted for
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| 17:40 | RexOrCine[m] | Nice section.
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| 17:40 | intracube | RexOrCine[m]: hm, interesting
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| 17:40 | intracube | confirmed. seems ok on android
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| 17:40 | Bertl_oO | firefox here
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| 17:40 | intracube | but not desktop
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| 17:40 | intracube | (firefox and chrome)
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| 17:42 | Bertl_oO | but it is a moot point as long as the page is not HTML
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| 17:42 | RexOrCine[m] | It seems temperamental that boot strap.
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| 17:42 | Bertl_oO | https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.apertus.org%2Findex.php%2FAXIOM_Beta%2FAXIOM_Beta_Hardware&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
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| 17:43 | Bertl_oO | so first step is to make it proper HTML/XML/CSS whatever
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| 17:43 | Bertl_oO | then it makes sense to see where it fails
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| 17:43 | intracube | https://lab.apertus.org/T770
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| 17:44 | intracube | Bertl_oO: yep. although making a page W3C compliant after the fact can be quite difficult :)
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| 18:01 | Bertl_oO | it is simply going through the errors/warnings one by one and fixing them
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| 18:02 | Bertl_oO | not very different to programming
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| 18:03 | Bertl_oO | except that for a program, you do not expect it to work as long as it contains syntactic and semantic errors :)
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| 19:18 | intracube | Bertl_oO: true of course, but historically there has been a lot more variation in standards for webdev compared to traditional programming
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| 19:18 | intracube | browsers accommodating bad web design and other browsers nonstandard behaviour
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| 19:19 | intracube | avoids web stuff wherever possible :)
| | 19:20 | BAndiT1983 | web development is mostly about implementing workarounds for browsers
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| 19:22 | BAndiT1983 | bootstrap navbar offset is nothing new -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20226001/bootstrap-anchor-offset-issue
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| 19:42 | intracube | from that page "It's jumping to right position, the top fixed menu is covering the title so you can't see it. You must put your anchors some place above the title so that menu won't be covering them"
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| 19:42 | intracube | ^ that's a back-to-front-way of fixing it :)
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| 19:43 | BAndiT1983 | most suggestions are using anchor offset
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| 19:43 | intracube | shouldn't have to compensate by setting the anchor points incorrectly
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| 19:44 | BAndiT1983 | https://github.com/twbs/bootstrap/issues/1768
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| 19:44 | BAndiT1983 | all the fixes are awkward, but it's webdev
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| 19:46 | BAndiT1983 | maybe the theme has to be adjusted, so the content area starts right below the navbar, this would bypass the problem
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| 19:47 | intracube | BAndiT1983: yep, that seems a better solution
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| 19:48 | intracube | otherwise anchor points might end up in a bad place for other themes used in the future
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| 19:48 | intracube | I've been out of the loop too long. not sure what method would work
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| 19:49 | intracube | maybe a separate iframe below the header with scrollbar disabled
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| 19:50 | intracube | but iirc, they didn't always work well when the user bookmarks the page
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| 19:50 | BAndiT1983 | position of the content container has to be adjusted, i know it a bit as i played around with bootstrap for new theme
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| 19:53 | BAndiT1983 | yep, tried it, margin-top in CSS can be used to offset it from the top
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| 19:59 | BAndiT1983 | padding-top is better for that, but has to be tested, task for se6astian or Rex
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| 20:04 | BAndiT1983 | just a reference for that -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10336194/twitter-bootstrap-top-nav-bar-blocking-top-content-of-the-page
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| 20:43 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now ...
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| 22:46 | RexOrCine[m] | Aye we did talk about removing the aOSC and AXIOM logos... or to be accurate se6astian put the notion of their removal on the table... I was pretty keen to keep them though. But if they're causing problems then rectifying that is the main thing.
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| 22:51 | RexOrCine[m] | They serve a good purpose but perhaps we can compensate by designing standards for the triptic. Having the Alpha photographed against a white background has been a pet want for a while now.
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| 23:27 | intracube | RexOrCine[m]: I like the custom branding
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| 23:27 | intracube | rather than some generic wikitheme
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