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| 00:27 | troy_s | OMFG that poll is sad.
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| 00:27 | troy_s | People cannot even read the damn thing before keyboard mashing. Oh and the âBlah blah is always bestâ junk.
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| 00:27 | troy_s | Shoot me.
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| 00:28 | Bertl | yeah, I said the same thing :)
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| 00:28 | troy_s | Pathetic.
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| 00:28 | troy_s | Design by voting.
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| 00:28 | troy_s | Ugh.
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| 00:28 | Bertl | well, so far it doesn't change what we have planned
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| 00:28 | troy_s | Good.
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| 00:28 | troy_s | Why dual micro?
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| 00:29 | troy_s | (Although I tend to agree with the folks who said the micro SDs are too damn fiddly.)
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| 00:29 | Bertl | three reasons: first, we know that it works (tested with the dual micro pmod)
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| 00:29 | Bertl | second, it fits without half the card standing over/out
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| 00:30 | troy_s | SD can too with a decent implementation yes?
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| 00:30 | troy_s | Ok but aside... Why dual?
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| 00:30 | Bertl | and finally, if you want to use it for still images, you can swap one card, while the other is still in use or you can keep your settings on one and the data on the other
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| 00:30 | troy_s | Right
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| 00:31 | troy_s | Seems like a non-event.
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| 00:31 | Bertl | yeah, we wanted to know what folks think and also involve the community, as some in the team were pushing for full size SD because of the obvious arguments (not so easy to lose, break, etc)
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| 00:32 | troy_s | How have you been Bertl?
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| 00:32 | troy_s | Yes and the poll is junk
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| 00:32 | Bertl | very busy, but everything is going really slow at the moment
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| 00:32 | troy_s | How many people are talking out their ass? 99.5%
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| 00:32 | troy_s | Sort of blown away at the microSD balance. They are utterly shit to deal with.
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| 00:33 | troy_s | But alas... Moot point.
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| 00:33 | Bertl | I think the disadvantages of micro SD can be easily overcome
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| 00:33 | Bertl | for example, the size and card getting lost issue is IMHO a non-issue, because every quality microSD nowadays comes with an SD adapter
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| 00:34 | Bertl | so just keep that adapter around and use it for the unused microSD
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| 00:34 | Bertl | (then it becomes a "normal" SD outside the slot)
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| 00:35 | Bertl | especially interesting is the "SSD" which shows up every second post :)
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| 00:35 | troy_s | Oh god.
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| 00:35 | troy_s | Yes
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| 00:36 | troy_s | Bertl, how long to invent a protocol where I could reverse time, and punch through the screen at people?
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| 00:36 | troy_s | I will do the Kickstarter or Indiegogo. We could keep it open if you want.
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| 00:37 | Bertl | hehe, for the time part, the chrono-john is required, the punch through screen is not new but not solved yet
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| 00:38 | Bertl | *chron-o-john to be precise :)
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| 08:26 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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| 08:31 | aombk2 | hmm maybe its not clear that the beta will not record the video
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| 09:13 | se6astian | good day
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| 09:16 | mars_ | morning seb
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| 11:23 | intracube | micro SD can be tricky to insert/remove if you've got short nails...
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| 11:24 | intracube | then your finger slips and *ping*
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| 11:24 | intracube | SD card is somewhere in the room. cue 15 mins search
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| 11:25 | ItsMeLenny | lol
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| 14:53 | troy_s | aombk: Maybe it is not clear that people should read before mashing their keyboards.
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| 14:55 | troy_s | aombk: Then glance at other comments partially that seem to support their incorrect position.
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| 14:55 | troy_s | Rinse. Repeat.
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| 14:59 | intracube | troy_s: what's this about?
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| 14:59 | troy_s | Ye mighty spiral of goofy vomments on the SD / MicroSD / Memory thread.
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| 15:00 | troy_s | Suddenly SSD popped up due to folks not reading. Which is a shame because it strikes me as a sadly all-too-common thread where folks are more interested in voicing their identity
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| 15:00 | troy_s | Than reading the (ridiculously small) text.
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| 15:01 | intracube | this is on apertus.org/forum ?
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| 15:02 | intracube | can't see it
| | 15:03 | troy_s | http://lab.apertus.org/V6
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| 15:03 | se6astian | the microSD/SD/flash memory poll
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| 15:03 | se6astian | I think its great that so many people are concerned about this
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| 15:03 | intracube | troy_s: se6astian: ah thanks
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| 15:03 | se6astian | not every comment/feedback needs to be of high value to everyone :)
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| 15:04 | troy_s | Also rather hilarious how the ergonomics folks all roll out.
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| 15:04 | se6astian | I think the trend in general is still representative with the poll
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| 15:04 | intracube | would vote for regular SD card slot (recessed)
| | 15:04 | se6astian | at least they stay on topic :)
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| 15:05 | troy_s | I wouldn't see great at all. I suppose from a "how are the numbers doing", but I worry more of a
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| 15:05 | se6astian | there are a few other tasks where people just ramble about slightly related topics in long paragraphs of concerns :)
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| 15:05 | troy_s | Voice-first with no processing culture.
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| 15:05 | troy_s | I guess so.
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| 15:05 | troy_s | That is what IRC is for dammit.
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| 15:06 | troy_s | (Lulz)
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| 15:06 | se6astian | http://lab.apertus.org/T136#4032
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| 15:06 | danieel | it was worth for registering for it :))
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| 15:06 | danieel | best one: "I would like to make sure the version of Raspberry Pi you use will have capabilities for SDXC Class 10 cards"
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| 15:07 | intracube | I can't remember if this has been discussed, but would there be any way to have the Beta write MJPEG or JP2000 sequences to SD card?
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| 15:07 | troy_s | Ugh.
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| 15:07 | intracube | could encoding be done in FPGA?
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| 15:07 | troy_s | se6astian: What a thread.
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| 15:07 | troy_s | Gads.
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| 15:08 | troy_s | danieel: Nooooooooooooo
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| 15:08 | danieel | troy_s: shall we fork and make an F66 ? :)
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| 15:08 | lab-bot-1 | F66: http://lab.apertus.org/file/data/g7duyjqeisi7zfpcsg26/PHID-FILE-7mcfljubgrr3oldstfh7/apertus-axiom-flyer-A6-01.jpg - apertus-axiom-flyer-A6-01.jpg
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| 15:08 | intracube | 50MB = ~400Mbps
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| 15:09 | troy_s | I wish more of the Lord Vocaloids would spend time in IRC... Might make some of their likely skewed vantages a little more tempered with some of the engineer types that idle here.
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| 15:09 | intracube | or am I asking for a stupid thing :)
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| 15:09 | danieel | intracube: it wont fit and nobody will do it
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| 15:09 | intracube | danieel: how so?
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| 15:10 | danieel | lookup an commercial compression ip core and count the resources
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| 15:10 | intracube | you mean full SD slot?
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| 15:10 | troy_s | I believe the R3D codec is simple JPEG2000, at least up to the point they encrypted the payload.
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| 15:10 | danieel | i think there is no such thing as simple jpeg2000 :) it will be still jpeg2000
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| 15:11 | danieel | was playing one day with redcinex.. interesting piece of software
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| 15:11 | troy_s | Oh I almost can't resist that thread...
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| 15:12 | troy_s | âI just did some math and I know for sure that the camera needs six MicroSD slots to record raw simultaneously. I am not sure the Raspberry Pi board can support six????1111111!1111"
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| 15:13 | troy_s | danieel: s/interesting/junk FIFY
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| 15:13 | troy_s | Kitchen Sink Obfuscation Layer.
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| 15:13 | danieel | mostly junk, could not use more than 35% of my i7...
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| 15:14 | danieel | (i have increased the simultanenous decode frame to max)
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| 15:14 | troy_s | Goofy crap.
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| 15:22 | troy_s | http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/02/canon-eos-5ds-eos-5ds-r-press-release/
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| 15:22 | troy_s | 5DS
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| 15:30 | se6astian | troy_s: what about 6 SD slots then?
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| 15:30 | se6astian | but the main question remains: 6 micro sd slots or 6 slots SD card slots sticking out of the camera????
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| 15:42 | troy_s | se6astian: 6 SD. At differing angles.
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| 15:42 | troy_s | se6astian: No wait... I agree with the other commenter! Six SSD drives.
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| 15:43 | troy_s | se6astian: And make sure you support Quake2 codec, because it is important.
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| 15:54 | se6astian | agreed
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| 16:09 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 16:43 | se6astian | good morning
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| 16:44 | aombk | yes! what a great morning it is!
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| 16:45 | aombk | can you make the 6 ssd array form a comfortable shoulder mount?
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| 16:45 | troy_s | aombk: GREAT Idea.
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| 16:45 | Bertl | of course, we have a concept where the SSDs stick out in 15° angles at the top
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| 16:46 | troy_s | aombk: I worry about the Quake 2 direct cable out though. Where can it go?
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| 16:46 | Bertl | working as SSD/heat spreader combo :)
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| 16:46 | troy_s | Bertl: Can we increment the degree by one per SSD?
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| 16:46 | Bertl | of course they are flexible, so everybody can adjust their personal angle :)
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| 16:46 | aombk | why quake 2? quake 3 controller is a resource beast?
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| 16:53 | troy_s | aombk: It's important to support the Quake 2 codec for Second Life.
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| 16:55 | aombk | quake 3 codec is only compatible with third life?
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| 16:55 | Bertl | everybody should get a 3rd life :)
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| 16:56 | troy_s | Bertl: Near-realtime Quake 2 codec out of the camera would probably require two MIDI ports. Can you get those on top with the SSDs?
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| 16:58 | aombk | on that other issue, i think its a must that we will be able to store a couple of seconds of some kind of scaled down compressed video on the onboard cards. that will be my main goal with the beta
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| 16:58 | Bertl | should we settle for midi if we can get maxi ports?
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| 16:59 | aombk | (i mean my goal will be to break someones balls to implement it) :P
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| 17:03 | se6astian | why implement maxi ports when we can name them "maxi pads"????
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| 18:01 | troy_s | aombk: Good idea... it would be very useful to have the scaled down footage used as a texture on the Quake 2 running on camera.
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| 18:01 | troy_s | That way when you want to scrub footage, you can just gib a few mobs and run up to the wall.
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| 18:06 | aombk | that would be great! what i cannot decide is the type of qxiom beta controller i want
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| 18:06 | aombk | http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0558/3513/t/2/assets/Product-Features.jpg?7607
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| 18:07 | aombk | or
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| 18:07 | aombk | http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u154082/razerhydra-600.jpg
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| 18:07 | aombk | ?
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| 18:32 | troy_s | aombk: Option A is certainly much more befitting.
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| 22:13 | aombk | any german in here?
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