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2015/02/05

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23:53
dmjnova
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00:27
troy_s
OMFG that poll is sad.
00:27
troy_s
People cannot even read the damn thing before keyboard mashing. Oh and the “Blah blah is always best” junk.
00:27
troy_s
Shoot me.
00:28
Bertl
yeah, I said the same thing :)
00:28
troy_s
Pathetic.
00:28
troy_s
Design by voting.
00:28
troy_s
Ugh.
00:28
Bertl
well, so far it doesn't change what we have planned
00:28
troy_s
Good.
00:28
troy_s
Why dual micro?
00:29
troy_s
(Although I tend to agree with the folks who said the micro SDs are too damn fiddly.)
00:29
Bertl
three reasons: first, we know that it works (tested with the dual micro pmod)
00:29
Bertl
second, it fits without half the card standing over/out
00:30
troy_s
SD can too with a decent implementation yes?
00:30
troy_s
Ok but aside... Why dual?
00:30
Bertl
and finally, if you want to use it for still images, you can swap one card, while the other is still in use or you can keep your settings on one and the data on the other
00:30
troy_s
Right
00:31
troy_s
Seems like a non-event.
00:31
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00:31
Bertl
yeah, we wanted to know what folks think and also involve the community, as some in the team were pushing for full size SD because of the obvious arguments (not so easy to lose, break, etc)
00:32
troy_s
How have you been Bertl?
00:32
troy_s
Yes and the poll is junk
00:32
Bertl
very busy, but everything is going really slow at the moment
00:32
troy_s
How many people are talking out their ass? 99.5%
00:32
troy_s
Sort of blown away at the microSD balance. They are utterly shit to deal with.
00:33
troy_s
But alas... Moot point.
00:33
Bertl
I think the disadvantages of micro SD can be easily overcome
00:33
Bertl
for example, the size and card getting lost issue is IMHO a non-issue, because every quality microSD nowadays comes with an SD adapter
00:34
Bertl
so just keep that adapter around and use it for the unused microSD
00:34
Bertl
(then it becomes a "normal" SD outside the slot)
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00:35
Bertl
especially interesting is the "SSD" which shows up every second post :)
00:35
troy_s
Oh god.
00:35
troy_s
Yes
00:36
troy_s
Bertl, how long to invent a protocol where I could reverse time, and punch through the screen at people?
00:36
troy_s
I will do the Kickstarter or Indiegogo. We could keep it open if you want.
00:37
Bertl
hehe, for the time part, the chrono-john is required, the punch through screen is not new but not solved yet
00:38
Bertl
*chron-o-john to be precise :)
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08:26
Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
08:27
Bertl
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08:31
aombk2
hmm maybe its not clear that the beta will not record the video
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se6astian|away
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09:13
se6astian
good day
09:16
mars_
morning seb
09:29
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se6astian
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11:23
intracube
micro SD can be tricky to insert/remove if you've got short nails...
11:24
intracube
then your finger slips and *ping*
11:24
intracube
SD card is somewhere in the room. cue 15 mins search
11:25
ItsMeLenny
lol
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se6astian|away
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13:09
se6astian
back
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14:53
troy_s
aombk: Maybe it is not clear that people should read before mashing their keyboards.
14:55
troy_s
aombk: Then glance at other comments partially that seem to support their incorrect position.
14:55
troy_s
Rinse. Repeat.
14:59
intracube
troy_s: what's this about?
14:59
troy_s
Ye mighty spiral of goofy vomments on the SD / MicroSD / Memory thread.
15:00
troy_s
Suddenly SSD popped up due to folks not reading. Which is a shame because it strikes me as a sadly all-too-common thread where folks are more interested in voicing their identity
15:00
troy_s
Than reading the (ridiculously small) text.
15:01
intracube
this is on apertus.org/forum ?
15:02
intracube
can't see it
15:03
troy_s
http://lab.apertus.org/V6
15:03
se6astian
the microSD/SD/flash memory poll
15:03
se6astian
I think its great that so many people are concerned about this
15:03
intracube
troy_s: se6astian: ah thanks
15:03
se6astian
not every comment/feedback needs to be of high value to everyone :)
15:04
troy_s
Also rather hilarious how the ergonomics folks all roll out.
15:04
se6astian
I think the trend in general is still representative with the poll
15:04
intracube
would vote for regular SD card slot (recessed)
15:04
se6astian
at least they stay on topic :)
15:05
troy_s
I wouldn't see great at all. I suppose from a "how are the numbers doing", but I worry more of a
15:05
se6astian
there are a few other tasks where people just ramble about slightly related topics in long paragraphs of concerns :)
15:05
troy_s
Voice-first with no processing culture.
15:05
troy_s
I guess so.
15:05
troy_s
That is what IRC is for dammit.
15:06
troy_s
(Lulz)
15:06
se6astian
http://lab.apertus.org/T136#4032
15:06
danieel
it was worth for registering for it :))
15:06
danieel
best one: "I would like to make sure the version of Raspberry Pi you use will have capabilities for SDXC Class 10 cards"
15:07
intracube
I can't remember if this has been discussed, but would there be any way to have the Beta write MJPEG or JP2000 sequences to SD card?
15:07
troy_s
Ugh.
15:07
intracube
could encoding be done in FPGA?
15:07
troy_s
se6astian: What a thread.
15:07
troy_s
Gads.
15:08
troy_s
danieel: Nooooooooooooo
15:08
danieel
troy_s: shall we fork and make an F66 ? :)
15:08
lab-bot-1
F66: http://lab.apertus.org/file/data/g7duyjqeisi7zfpcsg26/PHID-FILE-7mcfljubgrr3oldstfh7/apertus-axiom-flyer-A6-01.jpg - apertus-axiom-flyer-A6-01.jpg
15:08
intracube
50MB = ~400Mbps
15:09
troy_s
I wish more of the Lord Vocaloids would spend time in IRC... Might make some of their likely skewed vantages a little more tempered with some of the engineer types that idle here.
15:09
intracube
or am I asking for a stupid thing :)
15:09
danieel
intracube: it wont fit and nobody will do it
15:09
intracube
danieel: how so?
15:10
danieel
lookup an commercial compression ip core and count the resources
15:10
intracube
you mean full SD slot?
15:10
troy_s
I believe the R3D codec is simple JPEG2000, at least up to the point they encrypted the payload.
15:10
danieel
i think there is no such thing as simple jpeg2000 :) it will be still jpeg2000
15:11
danieel
was playing one day with redcinex.. interesting piece of software
15:11
troy_s
Oh I almost can't resist that thread...
15:12
troy_s
“I just did some math and I know for sure that the camera needs six MicroSD slots to record raw simultaneously. I am not sure the Raspberry Pi board can support six????1111111!1111"
15:13
troy_s
danieel: s/interesting/junk FIFY
15:13
troy_s
Kitchen Sink Obfuscation Layer.
15:13
danieel
mostly junk, could not use more than 35% of my i7...
15:14
danieel
(i have increased the simultanenous decode frame to max)
15:14
troy_s
Goofy crap.
15:22
troy_s
http://www.canonrumors.com/2015/02/canon-eos-5ds-eos-5ds-r-press-release/
15:22
troy_s
5DS
15:30
se6astian
troy_s: what about 6 SD slots then?
15:30
se6astian
but the main question remains: 6 micro sd slots or 6 slots SD card slots sticking out of the camera????
15:34
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15:42
troy_s
se6astian: 6 SD. At differing angles.
15:42
troy_s
se6astian: No wait... I agree with the other commenter! Six SSD drives.
15:43
troy_s
se6astian: And make sure you support Quake2 codec, because it is important.
15:54
se6astian
agreed
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16:09
Bertl_zZ
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16:09
Bertl
morning folks!
16:43
se6astian
good morning
16:44
aombk
yes! what a great morning it is!
16:45
aombk
can you make the 6 ssd array form a comfortable shoulder mount?
16:45
troy_s
aombk: GREAT Idea.
16:45
Bertl
of course, we have a concept where the SSDs stick out in 15° angles at the top
16:46
troy_s
aombk: I worry about the Quake 2 direct cable out though. Where can it go?
16:46
Bertl
working as SSD/heat spreader combo :)
16:46
troy_s
Bertl: Can we increment the degree by one per SSD?
16:46
Bertl
of course they are flexible, so everybody can adjust their personal angle :)
16:46
aombk
why quake 2? quake 3 controller is a resource beast?
16:53
troy_s
aombk: It's important to support the Quake 2 codec for Second Life.
16:55
aombk
quake 3 codec is only compatible with third life?
16:55
Bertl
everybody should get a 3rd life :)
16:56
troy_s
Bertl: Near-realtime Quake 2 codec out of the camera would probably require two MIDI ports. Can you get those on top with the SSDs?
16:58
aombk
on that other issue, i think its a must that we will be able to store a couple of seconds of some kind of scaled down compressed video on the onboard cards. that will be my main goal with the beta
16:58
Bertl
should we settle for midi if we can get maxi ports?
16:59
aombk
(i mean my goal will be to break someones balls to implement it) :P
17:03
se6astian
why implement maxi ports when we can name them "maxi pads"????
18:01
troy_s
aombk: Good idea... it would be very useful to have the scaled down footage used as a texture on the Quake 2 running on camera.
18:01
troy_s
That way when you want to scrub footage, you can just gib a few mobs and run up to the wall.
18:06
aombk
that would be great! what i cannot decide is the type of qxiom beta controller i want
18:06
aombk
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0558/3513/t/2/assets/Product-Features.jpg?7607
18:07
aombk
or
18:07
aombk
http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u154082/razerhydra-600.jpg
18:07
aombk
?
18:32
troy_s
aombk: Option A is certainly much more befitting.
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21:17
Bertl
off for a nap ... bbl
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Bertl
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se6astian
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aombk
any german in here?