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2014/12/04

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even
i'm off to bed too. goodnight bertl + masters of the holy circuit. i'll be back =)
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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone
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Bertl
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surami
good morning
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philippej
off topic, anyone has experience with this : http://www.shapeoko.com/ ?
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Bertl_zZ
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10:53
Bertl
morning folks!
10:56
Bertl
philippej: 1/40mm X/Y sounds impressive for this type of construction
10:57
philippej
I'm looking for a rather different use, wood cutting of mdf, at a somehow larger size like 1 meter by 1 meter for instance, seems possible :-)
10:57
philippej
yes, looks like a decent kit
10:58
philippej
and some eu seller : http://store.amberspyglass.co.uk/configurable-size-eshapeoko-mechanical-kit-with-open-end-plates.html
11:28
ItsMeLenny
hello
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ItsMeLenny
and no
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ItsMeLenny
but ive been meaning to build such a thing for my dremel for years :P
11:33
philippej
I built a simplier one, mostly wood based, but it was not fast enough
11:33
philippej
and the effective work area was too small
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philippej
this is allaluminium based, with nice profiles,, ball bearing rail system
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se6astian
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15:56
aombk2
the cmosis sensor, does it have an infrared filter?
15:56
Bertl
you mean an infrared cut-off filter?
15:57
Bertl
in any case, the answer is no
16:00
aombk2
thats great
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aombk2
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16:00
Bertl
yes, especially as it has quite a range in near IR/UV
16:03
aombk
it may be possible to use beta as a depth sensor
16:32
dmjnova
aombk: There is even a variation with extra NIR sensitivity
16:33
dmjnova
aombk: wouldn't the infrared patterns image the RGB image though
16:34
dmjnova
aombk: Or are you thinking pure depth, not RGBD?
16:36
aombk
i was thinking for depth only
16:36
aombk
but maybe both could coexist
16:37
aombk
with some post processing rgb and d could be separated
16:39
aombk
or some pixels could be used for the depth channel
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Bertl
the NIR version is monochrome only
16:42
intracube
aombk: how do you extract depth from IR?
16:42
Bertl
by using an IR pattern :)
16:45
aombk
yes you project an ir pattern
16:45
intracube
is it similar to how kinect does it?
16:46
danieel
what does the pattern consist of?
16:46
Bertl
usually lines
16:47
intracube
kinect uses dots
16:48
danieel
but then the depth map has reduced resolution
16:48
intracube
ah, so the advantage of IR patterns is just that it doesn't appear on final footage
16:48
intracube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2nqxyywbQI
16:59
aombk
depth data for footage would make compositing and vfx much easier
17:00
aombk
or useable ir pattern footage would make camera tracking much faster, even realtime
17:00
Bertl
split the beam into IR and non-IR, use a color and monochrome sensor :)
17:01
danieel
Bertl: that is patented :)
17:01
Bertl
there you can see how stupid patents are
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aombk
so bertl, the rgb sensor would filter out infrared because of the bayer pattern on each pixel?
17:03
danieel
the rgb does capture IR in all channels
17:03
Bertl
to some degree, check the spectral response curves for detail
17:05
intracube
not inherently a patent issue... more a problem with US patents office :)
17:05
intracube
who let apple patent virtual slide-to-unlock
17:06
aombk
so what exactly is patented?
17:06
intracube
even though the real-world equivalent has been used on bathroom doors all over the world for decades
17:06
danieel
that ir compositing stuff does exist, is non virtual
17:07
intracube
aombk: do you mean apple patent or what danieel is talking about?
17:08
aombk
what danieel talks about
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aombk
ir pattern projection and using two sensors, one for rgb and one for ir?
17:10
danieel
without pattern, you want full res depth map
17:10
aombk
yes but i mean what is patented?
17:11
danieel
what i have written
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danieel
btw without ircut, the image looks like this: http://home.rozsnyo.com/noircut.mp4
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se6astian|away
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lab-bot
sebastian created T202: boost / nginx config security hole in our server. http://lab.apertus.org/T202
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lab-bot
sebastian created T201: Research push button options. http://lab.apertus.org/T201
19:39
lab-bot
Bertl created T200: Remote Control Display Size. http://lab.apertus.org/T200
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lab-bot
intracube created T197: irc.apertus.org incorrect UTC time. http://lab.apertus.org/T197
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lab-bot
sebastian closed T169: lsm.apertus.org down as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T169
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T166: publish Axiom Alpha Timeline to communicate more than "it is complex and a lot of things have been and still are happening in parallell", a task blocking T165: Create TAG Festival article for apertus.org, as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T165
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T166: publish Axiom Alpha Timeline to communicate more than "it is complex and a lot of things have been and still are happening in parallell" as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T166
19:39
lab-bot
intracube created T191: register table sources. http://lab.apertus.org/T191
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T103: update header bar that connects our platforms together as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T103
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lab-bot
sebastian created T190: adding header bar to phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T190
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian created T189: add piwik tracking of phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T189
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lab-bot
sebastian created T201: Research push button options. http://lab.apertus.org/T201
19:39
lab-bot
Bertl created T200: Remote Control Display Size. http://lab.apertus.org/T200
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lab-bot
intracube created T197: irc.apertus.org incorrect UTC time. http://lab.apertus.org/T197
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T169: lsm.apertus.org down as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T169
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T166: publish Axiom Alpha Timeline to communicate more than "it is complex and a lot of things have been and still are happening in parallell" as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T166
19:39
lab-bot
intracube created T191: register table sources. http://lab.apertus.org/T191
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T103: update header bar that connects our platforms together as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T103
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian created T190: adding header bar to phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T190
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian created T189: add piwik tracking of phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T189
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian created T201: Research push button options. http://lab.apertus.org/T201
19:39
lab-bot
Bertl created T200: Remote Control Display Size. http://lab.apertus.org/T200
19:39
lab-bot
intracube created T197: irc.apertus.org incorrect UTC time. http://lab.apertus.org/T197
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T169: lsm.apertus.org down as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T169
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T166: publish Axiom Alpha Timeline to communicate more than "it is complex and a lot of things have been and still are happening in parallell", a task blocking T165: Create TAG Festival article for apertus.org, as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T165
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T166: publish Axiom Alpha Timeline to communicate more than "it is complex and a lot of things have been and still are happening in parallell" as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T166
19:39
lab-bot
intracube created T191: register table sources. http://lab.apertus.org/T191
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian closed T103: update header bar that connects our platforms together as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T103
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian created T190: adding header bar to phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T190
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian created T189: add piwik tracking of phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T189
19:39
lab-bot
sebastian created T201: Research push button options. http://lab.apertus.org/T201
19:39
lab-bot
Bertl created T200: Remote Control Display Size. http://lab.apertus.org/T200
19:39
lab-bot
intracube created T197: irc.apertus.org incorrect UTC time. http://lab.apertus.org/T197
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lab-bot
sebastian closed T166: publish Axiom Alpha Timeline to communicate more than "it is complex and a lot of things have been and still are happening in parallell" as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T166
19:40
lab-bot
intracube created T191: register table sources. http://lab.apertus.org/T191
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian closed T103: update header bar that connects our platforms together as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T103
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian created T190: adding header bar to phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T190
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian created T189: add piwik tracking of phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T189
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian created T201: Research push button options. http://lab.apertus.org/T201
19:40
lab-bot
Bertl created T200: Remote Control Display Size. http://lab.apertus.org/T200
19:40
lab-bot
intracube created T197: irc.apertus.org incorrect UTC time. http://lab.apertus.org/T197
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian closed T169: lsm.apertus.org down as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T169
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian closed T166: publish Axiom Alpha Timeline to communicate more than "it is complex and a lot of things have been and still are happening in parallell", a task blocking T165: Create TAG Festival article for apertus.org, as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T165
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian closed T166: publish Axiom Alpha Timeline to communicate more than "it is complex and a lot of things have been and still are happening in parallell" as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T166
19:40
lab-bot
intracube created T191: register table sources. http://lab.apertus.org/T191
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian closed T103: update header bar that connects our platforms together as "Resolved". http://lab.apertus.org/T103
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian created T190: adding header bar to phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T190
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian created T189: add piwik tracking of phabricator. http://lab.apertus.org/T189
19:40
lab-bot
sebastian created T201: Research push button options. http://lab.apertus.org/T201
19:40
lab-bot
Bertl created T200: Remote Control Display Size. http://lab.apertus.org/T200
19:40
lab-bot
intracube created T197: irc.apertus.org incorrect UTC time. http://lab.apertus.org/T197
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se6astian
uhm is the bot gone wild....
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lab-bot
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se6astian
but now behave, bad bad bot!
19:41
Bertl
T200 ?
19:41
intracube
se6astian: um, should I create a bug report? :P
19:41
lab-bot
T200: Remote Control Display Size - http://lab.apertus.org/T200
19:41
se6astian
yes please :)
19:41
intracube
or will that create a recursive loop that'll destroy the universe?
19:41
se6astian
I think we need to take that risk :)
19:42
se6astian
use http://irc.apertus.org/index.php?day=04&month=12&year=2014#104 as refernce when reporting the bug
19:42
se6astian
http://irc.apertus.org/index.php?day=04&month=12&year=2014#104
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lab-bot
intracube created T203: lab-bot flooded IRC. http://lab.apertus.org/T203
19:54
se6astian
thanks
20:12
dmjnova
aombk: Ideally, we'd have a specialized bayer pattern: RGBIr instead of RGBG
20:13
Bertl
ideally we don't have a bayer pattern at all :)
20:13
dmjnova
but then you need 4 sensors
20:14
dmjnova
or a sensor that uses that penetration depth technique for color
20:14
dmjnova
tradeoffs
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se6astian
time for bed!
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Bertl
off to bed as well ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl
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