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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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se6astian
good morning
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Bertl
morning folks!
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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umit
Hello Team Apertus
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umit
I am Umit from Istanbul Turkey
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umit
And I hope that I can help you
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umit
Is there anyone online
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umit
No response again
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Spirit532
2 minutes for a reply, that's one hell of an impatient guy.
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se6astian
he has no time to loose to help
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se6astian
new team talk 11 is out!
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se6astian
https://www.apertus.org/axiom-team-talk-volume-11-article-november-2016
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Spirit532
se6astian, talk to the camera, not to the air between the camera and other people! D:
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Spirit532
for medium-volume production you should probably outsource PCB production to medium-cost manufacturers in panelized form
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Spirit532
it should be a lot cheaper than doing it yourself, at least via man-hours
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Spirit532
personally, I'd go with reputable chinese manufacturers, but you have a different opinion on using those
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Bertl_oO
hey kaiserlich!
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kaiserlich
hey bertl!
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toxitobi
good evening
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Bertl_oO
evening!
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toxitobi
Nice seeing the enclosures and also your CNC-machine.
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Bertl_oO
se6astian will be happy to hear :)
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toxitobi
hope the delivery of cameras will roll out quicker than before :-)
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toxitobi
is your pick and place machine running?
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Bertl_oO
not really as we hoped ... i.e. still work in progress
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toxitobi
such a shame
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toxitobi
Loved the part with the kitchen oven.
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Bertl_oO
hey umitdogan!
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umitdogan
hey
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umitdogan
Finally
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umitdogan
:)
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umitdogan
I was reading lab page and trying to warm up
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Bertl_oO
from your messages I gathered that you want to help out, but don't know how/where yet
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umitdogan
yes yes exactly
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umitdogan
I am very interested in the project as software eng and film maker
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Bertl_oO
any specific areas which sound appealing to you? anything you are really good at and would like to do? :)
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umitdogan
I did enterprise C++ server apps around 6-7 years ago for 6-7 yers
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umitdogan
and i did project management in software projects most of them r&d
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umitdogan
for 5-6 years
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umitdogan
And i am film maker for 3 years.
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umitdogan
I shot my first short last year and working my first feture
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Bertl_oO
sounds great!
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umitdogan
I hope i cand help you
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Bertl_oO
I'm sure we will find something ...
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umitdogan
I am half engineer half cinema person lets say
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umitdogan
Let me know what is your urgent need or what is mostly required
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Bertl_oO
well, we have tasks ranging from hard core embedded FPGA programming over the typical software and database tasks to general testing, evaluation and documentation
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Bertl_oO
so it would make sense to find something you actually like doing instead of something which might be urgent but you really do not want to do :)
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umitdogan
It sounds good
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umitdogan
:)
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Bertl
so any preference?
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umitdogan
Anyway i would interested in product development(specs, bencmanrks, test ) and or software development
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umitdogan
Do you use C or assembler
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Bertl
yes, we do, on the AXIOM Beta
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Bertl
but also python and bash scripts :)
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umitdogan
Good good
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umitdogan
I can also work as a film maker but at this stage i am not sure what can i do
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Bertl
so for testing and benchmarking you probably need to get a little more intimate with the AXIOM Beta first ... and probably need to get one as well
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umitdogan
Yes sounds good
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Bertl
although designing tests doesn't require actual hardware, but it is always better to have access to
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umitdogan
I sounds very interesting i must say :)
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umitdogan
How can i get it?
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umitdogan
Do you sell it as a development product
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Bertl
well, that's the tricky part ... we had a very successful crowd funding campaign in 2014
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Bertl
and after developing the AXIOM Beta during 2015, we are now building the development kits for our crowdfunding backers
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Bertl
so for now the Beta is not officially sold except to voucher holders
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umitdogan
Ok
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umitdogan
How much is it actually
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umitdogan
And i think there will be a problem in customs
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umitdogan
So do you have any solution for that already
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Bertl
but, the good news is, every now and then somebody 'returns' his or her voucher (because they get into financial problems or whatever) and then we re-distribute this voucher to interested folks (we keep a list)
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Bertl
the voucher was last sold for 800 EUR and it gives you an AXIOM Beta at cost
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umitdogan
800 EUR
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Bertl
the parts for the AXIOM Beta cost about 2200 EUR give or take (the sensor is the most expensive part)
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umitdogan
What is sensor exactly
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umitdogan
I mean brand
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Bertl
it is a CMV12000 from cmosis
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umitdogan
Oh good
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umitdogan
So all i need to do is invest 800 EUR :)
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Bertl
for the voucher, yes
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umitdogan
And Turkish customs is a problem so i need to travell a bit
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umitdogan
Where is your location exactly
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umitdogan
in Germany?
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Bertl
but you could also build your own AXIOM Beta
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Bertl
we are located in Austria and Belgium
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umitdogan
Well do you have any source explaining own Axiom beta
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umitdogan
How to build up an Axiom Beta i mean
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Bertl
there is no how-to yet, but the designs are all open and available, so if you know how to handle a soldering iron, you can get all the parts from distributors and the PCBs from OSHpark
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Bertl
you will also need to mill or order the lens mount, but that's not a big problem either
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umitdogan
Well
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umitdogan
I did some electronics in school
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umitdogan
But it is a little bit emm...mmm...err .)
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umitdogan
:)
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umitdogan
But i would like that way :)
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Bertl
here so that you get an idea how the boards look like:
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Bertl
https://wiki.apertus.org/images/f/f4/BetaPowerBoard_0.18_TOP.jpg
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umitdogan
Do you have any design spec
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Bertl
what do you mean by 'design spec'?
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umitdogan
I mean how to connect main parts board, power, lens holder etc
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umitdogan
Ok i you already said that you dont have how to
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Bertl
https://www.apertus.org/sites/default/files/PCB-Stack-Concept-V03-022b-transp.png
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umitdogan
Yes yes
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Bertl
that is basically what we have regarding the 'how to plug everything together' :)
19:50
umitdogan
This is prety helpful
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Bertl
there are no 'wires' or 'cables' except for the fan and of course power and external connections
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umitdogan
Basically it is core i guess
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umitdogan
I mean you just need to power it and cool it
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Bertl
yes, the rest is software :)
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Bertl
so if you want to build your own and document the process while you go, that would be a nice thing
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Bertl
if you prefer an assembled kit to play with, I would suggest that we add you to the waiting list
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umitdogan
Let me think about it
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Bertl
sure, no need to decide right now, take your time
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umitdogan
I will search some of the wiki pages
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umitdogan
of apertus
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umitdogan
and try to find electronic eng friend if i can consult when i need help
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umitdogan
Or i can do it myself?
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Bertl
if something is unclear (and it will be :) do not hesitate to ask (here) and add the information to the wiki
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umitdogan
Good that is the right place to start :)
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umitdogan
I also document it with video if you dont minds
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Bertl
go crazy :)
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umitdogan
If you dont mind
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umitdogan
Good
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umitdogan
Ok first i need to search for parts
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umitdogan
what is it for and interfaces etc.
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umitdogan
Thank you herbert
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umitdogan
See you soon
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Bertl
cya
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Bertl
off for a nap ... bbl
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Bertl
back now ...