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Greets.

back in da house

wb

they don't speak german

ups sry

how much does a axiom cost at the moment?

if you build it yourself, the components are about 2300 EUR

if you contribute to development with 800 EUR, you get a voucher, which will give you one assembled Beta at cost

so cheap? Ò.ó

5700EUR?

wouldn't the price go DOWN with quantity?

5700 is something else than 2300 unassembled....

baggies of componentry and boards

unassembled means you have to build it? but you dont have to buy anything else?

aside from the microzed

very

i think a hack club should have that?

if you don't have ANY experience, you won't be able to do it

reflow oven is advised but not strictly required

and the populated ones?

yeah, someone with no experience doing SMD work will never accomplish that without either trashing a few boards or practicing a LOT

yes, if you have no experience soldering SMD, you should find somebody who does, or start practicing

are there*

don't understand

ah das meinst du

apertus has a slightly higher-end audience in mind

filmmakers

but my project is only at the very beginning so far, nothing is concrete and no parts are purchased

i want beautiful image

but FHD, not 4K

but with the added benefit of being able to shoot slightly lower quality, but still FHD, at 1000fps

lol

I only develop hardware

don't care about actors

i am interested in real movies :P not boring slowmo

<-<

seriously*

and if i would have friends, i could only make movies where the characters look naive and not professional. like for a comedy.

asking in a park... i am not the best social pro

then you probably should forget about the camera part and focus on rendered movies

still not possible. you can't make a cgi movie/webseries/whatever with a one men band... not fast enough to produce weekly medium

ill see :P

it is

it's not a user-friendly thing right now

is there a very dark raw record i can see ?

wanna see its low light skills

what? I don't have a camera of my own

Bertl works with se6astian

ah. oh

so simply contact him and he will find some footage for you

direct sensor output

no processing

like raw from arri or red or a gh4?

stjepan: yep, those are not really raw

raw from production cameras is very far from raw

yes...?

to make it easier?

looks like a zombie movie

hm

no such page

but raw from the production cameras is just uncompressed, but processed video

dead pixels, linearization, often even debayering

technical theorie is .... bbad ^^

ill wait till sebastians arrival

dont understand, still

real raw looks awful

i know that it doesntl ook awful

perhaps billins oO

you haven't seen real raw

ask se6astian

and there's that

why isnt the site then updated with current footages? ;)

sorry, but the site isn't user friendly or? i have problems to get through it

ftp://ftp.apertus.org/

:/

i have no diea what im cluicking XD

i think you should contact freecodecamp. they can make you for free a better website

a designer should answer that questin

you don't have to be a designer to see that the website is easy and intuitive

much more*

we are not like other camera companies

which is kinda cool

though I wish there was a $500 variant, even of the dev system

how long will the battery stand up?

T__T

if it is not bigger than blackmagics?

battery is battery.

yeah, whatever battery you want

you sound really clueless for someone that's "interested in camera and film gear"

also known as a car battery

that'd last you a few days of continuous filming

you can

oO

cars recharge the battery every time they run

>_<

i am interested in filming XD not in...

:D

better than bmcc

not possible with the current hardware

the slowmo?

you s aid 1000 fps is possible with 2k resolution

it's not

ok

I think it'll do 840fps at 1080 lines

progressive lines?

.__.

you take the entire picture at once

what is global shutter

stop this XD

i thought progeressive is full pic

or 2 pics overlayed

too hard for me

top to bottom or whatever you want

this is a good example, but it's not very relevant anymore

eh..............

end

:)

?

i hope

you haven't touched a sensor in your life

no, you do

not the datasheets or specs

so why i am in love with footage made with arri, Spirit532 ?

red footage isn't so nice as arri

no. its raw

you'd throw out any arri that showed you real raw images

i never saw nice looking dslr grading

this isn't about grading

i saw enough raw arri footages -.-

oh come on

to be titled "raw", so?

and this is a cinema camera

why are we chatting now about this...

and you'd never buy a camera that output images that bad

possibly less

than the CMV12000 raw output

you can dump raw images and process them yourself from scratch

:/ to much non-relevant stuff

for who

ahh. there we have it.

i feel so bad now.

those guys from apertus ...

https://twitter.com/ApertusOSCinema/status/727852090245132290

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hi

hi

stjepan: the arri footage is quite a lot processed - lets say normalized, to the level which you see as raw. you can read the process on their page

who cares if it is really raw or not :) what matters is that the pic is how you want it

to bad that we here fall to the remaining 1% :)

i am just here bcs of the price

you're not getting a full camera with the beta

it's a DEVELOPMENT kit

so because of what price are you here then?

someone said 5700 € will be the price in at the end of this year for the full camera

okay?

100%

oh i am stupid.. the beta is a dev. kit... ok..i got it

yup, but also more expensive

RexO: check with se6astian

:/

am i annoying? :D

kk

hm okey. so it is too early to ask questions?

stjepan: no, absolutely not, it's always good to ask questions

it helps if the questions are related to the current state of the Beta though

mostly you're doing this camera for consumers and not for devs so the dev releated stuf fshould go into a corner at the right top or so and not in the middle of the page

o.O

so others can sell their developed camera or how?

you should better to develop, not the others

then just sell the modulars.

and why do they develop for you? ... i dont get it

oh shit i am so wrong here :D