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2016/04/04

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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
morning folks!
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PhilK
Hi Bertl, Sebastian said to ping you - re. Axiom Remote.
16:15
Bertl
hey, how are you?
16:16
PhilK
Good, and you?
16:16
Bertl
fine, thanks!
16:17
Bertl
so let me know what you need to get started, I'll try to answer
16:17
PhilK
The dev kit, is ths something you would order?
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Bertl
we already got an olimex dev board with LCD
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Bertl
you can use that one if that is your question
16:20
PhilK
Yep, perfect!
16:20
PhilK
I've seen the designs, do you have any of the other hardware? Switches, rotary encoders...
16:21
Bertl
se6astian has spent some time testing buttons and encoders
16:21
Bertl
so we should have some idea what is useable and what not
16:22
PhilK
OK, so that side of things is reasonably sorted then.
16:22
Bertl
parts can be easily ordered via the typical distributors
16:22
PhilK
What about remote<->Camera communication?
16:22
Bertl
nothing specific has been decided yet, but probably a serial interface would be best suited
16:23
PhilK
OK
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Bertl
personally I'd go for 3.3V RS232 over a shielded cable
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Bertl
this also allows to easily switch to a wireless solution lateron
16:24
PhilK
Sounds reasonable, old school but reliable.
16:25
PhilK
I've just implemented a BT/serial interface for our first prototype to an Android app.
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PhilK
The olimex dev kit - does this come with a C compliler?
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Bertl
the pic32 microcontroller is mips based, and has good gcc support
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PhilK
Great!
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PhilK
Ok, that's answered all of my inital questions ;-)
16:30
Bertl
excellent! do not hesitate to ask me if you need anything else
16:30
PhilK
Will do, thanks Bertl.
16:30
Bertl
you're welcome!
16:31
Bertl
glad to have you on-board!
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PhilK
It's great to be able to contribute something to the project!
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Bertl
welcome Alex_Chooks!
16:44
se6astian
Hi PhilK
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se6astian
Great to have you here
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se6astian
our favourite button is currently this: http://www.mouser.at/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0virtualkey0virtualkeySKPRAAE010
16:45
se6astian
completely silent operation but very good tactile feedback
16:45
se6astian
but for the first prototype basically anything will do
16:47
Alex_Chooks
Hi guys ! I would like to help you on something for the camera but I don't know what can I do. I have some notions with python, html/css, raspberry pi, arduino. Also I have a 3d printer if you need ( we printed the axiom beta case ) Cheers
16:48
se6astian
the main purpose of the prototype is to establish a system that can communicate with the camera
16:48
Bertl
Alex_Chooks: yeah, I remember
16:48
se6astian
and to test which GUI layouts and general modes of operation are most intuitive/fast
16:48
se6astian
here is the very latest button layout: https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/File:AXIOM_Remote_V3_ButtonPos.pdf
16:49
se6astian
labels are mostly in german
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se6astian
but we can create an english translation if required
16:49
se6astian
Alex_Chooks: how much would it cost you to send 3d prints to us in Austria
16:49
PhilK
Hi se6bastian, yep looks fine, Deutsch ist ok fur mich (nur es bissien!)
16:49
Bertl
Alex_Chooks: what would you like to work on?
16:50
se6astian
great :D
16:50
se6astian
you are by far the fastest with printing new designs and our printers are still not 100% up and running flawlessly here
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se6astian
and I have tons of designs to evaluate
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se6astian
through 3d prints :)
16:51
PhilK
I've a Taz 5 I use for prototyping, what are you using for CAD?
16:51
Alex_Chooks
se6astian : I will have a look
16:51
Bertl
so 3D printing and testing would be appreciated ...
16:52
se6astian
I model in fusion 360 or onshape ltely
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se6astian
*lately
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Alex_Chooks
Bertl : I don't know really, on something where I have the competencies and that can help you ;)
16:53
PhilK
@se6bastian - OK, I use Fusion 360 as well, and OpenSCAD for internal frameworks.
16:53
se6astian
great
16:54
Bertl
Alex_Chooks: well testing new ideas and concepts via 3D printing is quite time consuming, so if you want to join there as well (i.e. if that is interesting for you) then I'm sure se6astian would appreciate it :)
16:55
se6astian
Alex_Chooks: you are in France right? if postal services or DHL (not express) is an option with reasonable prices if you can print and send me designs this would be very valuable for us to speed up enclosure development
16:56
Bertl
in many cases it probably doesn't even have to be sent to us, I guess a lot of problems will show up during or right after the print
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Bertl
after all we plan to provide designs which can be easily replicated
16:57
se6astian
yes I am sure you will already notice some problems before it even needs to be sent to me but ultimately I want to put all the peices together and hold it in hands before we make the switch to cutting in from aluminum on our CNC
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Alex_Chooks
se6astian :To send you a parcel with the french post, it's 12.15 ⬠for under 500g
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se6astian
perfect
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se6astian
we can cover that
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se6astian
ok now I gotta run
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se6astian
be back online when I am home
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se6astian
thanks for stopping by
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se6astian
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Alex_Chooks
Great, tell me when you have something to print ! If I can help on other things, say it to me . (because you know that the time for printing is a bit long )
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se6astian|away
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se6astian
Alex_Chooks: will do!
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Alex_Chooks
se6astian: I just sent you an email where you can send me files to print .
17:37
Bertl
working on the web frontend is something you can do while waiting for a print, for example
17:38
Bertl
we have been planning to improve the web interface and interaction with the memory mapped camera registers for some time
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Alex_Chooks
yes of course !
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Alex_Chooks
You just have to tell me what I have to do !
17:41
se6astian
Alex_Chooks: thanks, got it
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Bertl
Alex_Chooks: currently, basically all the settings happen via memory mapped registers, some of them are 16bit, some of them are 32bit
17:48
Alex_Chooks
wow, ok. I don't know if I'm able to this but I can have a look.
18:44
Bertl
there is python and C code which does this 'properly' so you might look into that and see if you can get something performant working on php as well
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Alex_Chooks
Yes, if I have a look on the code maybe it going to become clearer for me and I can understand the way that you are using to do that.
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Alex_Chooks
where I can have a look on it ?
19:24
Bertl
http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/lut_conf3.c
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Bertl
here is an example C code which accesses the LUT register file
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Bertl
the python version does similar with the mmap module
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Bertl
i.e.f = os.open("/dev/mem", os.O_RDWR | os.O_SYNC)
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Bertl
mem = mmap.mmap(f, length, mmap.MAP_SHARED,
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Bertl
mmap.PROT_READ | mmap.PROT_WRITE,
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Bertl
offset=base_addr)
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Alex_Chooks
Ok Bertl, to be frank I can understand the code but I'm not sure that I can write it totally by myself and make it usable.
21:12
Bertl
well, give it a try during the long printing sessions :)
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Alex_Chooks
hahaha I notes the challenges !
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se6astian
I am off to bed
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Bertl
nn
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Bertl
off for a nap ... bbl
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