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| 07:56 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 12:45 | g33kyaditya | Hey all !
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| 12:45 | g33kyaditya | I'm Aditya. Anyone around ?
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| 12:46 | BAndiT1983 | hi
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| 12:47 | g33kyaditya | Could you tell me more about OpenCine ? Specifically about the task involved in this year's GSoC
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| 12:49 | BAndiT1983 | OpenCine is planned as a toolsuite, which should help the people, on set or in post-production, to backup, manage and color-grade RAW clips
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| 12:50 | BAndiT1983 | the task focuses on different de-Bayering methods, which should be applied to RAW data, which we will get from axiom beta for example
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| 12:50 | BAndiT1983 | as many people asked about OC(=OpenCine), i'm thinking about adding new tasks, but haven't had time to think about it
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| 12:51 | BAndiT1983 | one can refer to https://lab.apertus.org/T727 in that case
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| 12:52 | g33kyaditya | Wikipedia tells me there are multiple algorithms for de-Bayering. Is there a library involved to do this sort of thing
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| 12:53 | g33kyaditya | Well, ofcourse. OC sounds really cool, especially for some of us movie buffs, Lol ;)
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| 12:53 | BAndiT1983 | currently i've implemented 2 algorithms to be able to preview (C)DNG files, but we also have got algorithms
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| 12:53 | BAndiT1983 | from another team member
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| 12:54 | BAndiT1983 | problem with libs is often the problematic usage, e.g. libraw, often also performance/speed etc.
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| 12:54 | BAndiT1983 | so sticking to won implementations at the moment, which should be accelerated by uisng OpenCL, GLSL shader or similar
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| 12:55 | BAndiT1983 | *own
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| 12:55 | g33kyaditya | Plus the lib could go out of maintenance
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| 12:56 | BAndiT1983 | yes, this is also a problem
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| 12:56 | g33kyaditya | Nice. I've never really done this sort of thing before but would love to try my hands on it
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| 12:57 | BAndiT1983 | if you have development experience, then you could try to build it
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| 12:58 | BAndiT1983 | instructions can be found in repository -> https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/opencine
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| 12:58 | g33kyaditya | Sure thing. Thanks. I'm setting up my build system as we speak :)
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| 12:58 | BAndiT1983 | very good
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| 12:59 | g33kyaditya | Also, I wanted to ask, do I need to know a lot of Image Processing already? Or can I pick some stuff specific to the needs
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| 13:01 | BAndiT1983 | i am also not an expert in image processing, but there is ProcessingTest sub-project in the source, which you can inspect to see some implementations, it's a sandbox to play around with OC things or test new features
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| 13:02 | g33kyaditya | Nice. I'll have a look
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| 14:02 | g33kyaditya | What is exactly the avformat package ? CMake gives me an error while making the project QtAV
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| 15:28 | karan | Bertl_oO :ping
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| 15:28 | Bertl_oO | pong
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| 15:30 | karan | Bertl_oO :i gone through schematics. where i can get more details like which pmod is used
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| 15:30 | Bertl_oO | pmod?
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| 15:31 | karan | fan is connected to PMOD module right?
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| 15:31 | Bertl_oO | nope
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| 15:31 | Bertl_oO | the fan is connected to the main board
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| 15:32 | Bertl_oO | you might be looking at the wrong camera, i.e. AXIOM Alpha not Beta
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| 15:32 | Bertl_oO | back then, we had the fan connected to the PMOD (via some electronics)
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| 15:33 | karan | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/BETA_interface.pdf
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| 15:34 | Bertl_oO | ah, yes, that was the original design we presented for the indigogo campaign
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| 15:35 | karan | then where is updated version:(
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| 15:35 | Bertl_oO | back then, the Beta design consisted of a single board with two shields and a uSD/FAN controller
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| 15:36 | Bertl_oO | there is no updated version available yet
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| 15:36 | Bertl_oO | check the schematic for the mainboard for details regarding the fan
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| 15:37 | Bertl_oO | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/axiom_beta_main_board_v0.36_r1.2.sch
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| 15:40 | karan | umm not getting what this has..
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| 15:41 | Bertl_oO | first page, bottom right D7/8
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| 15:42 | Bertl_oO | shows the speaker and right beside it D6 is the FAN connector
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| 15:42 | Bertl_oO | driven by N_IO0
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| 15:43 | Bertl_oO | that is connected to the RFE on page 6
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| 15:43 | Bertl_oO | pin 1 aka PL2C
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| 16:02 | karan | sorry ,there is no page no.
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| 16:05 | Bertl_oO | the sheets are numbered
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| 17:20 | karan | Bertl_oO: not able to follow you ,please elaborate
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| 17:21 | Bertl_oO | you got the schematic opened, yes?
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| 17:21 | karan | ya
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| 17:21 | karan | on web
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| 17:22 | Bertl_oO | hmm, that won't show you much I guess
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| 17:22 | Bertl_oO | I can make you a pdf though, if you don't want to install Eagle
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| 17:22 | karan | k
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| 17:23 | karan | is egle is needed furthur
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| 17:25 | Bertl_oO | not really, it just makes it easier to find stuff, because you can search for pins/points and highlight components
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| 17:29 | Bertl_oO | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/axiom_beta_main_board_v0.36_r1.2.schematic.pdf
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| 17:34 | Bertl_oO | here you can find the code for the current 'pass through' setup for the MachXO2
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| 17:34 | Bertl_oO | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Stuff/AXIOM/BETA/LATTICE/
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| 17:34 | Bertl_oO | note that this can be used to build designs with the Lattice Diamond tools
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| 17:35 | Bertl_oO | also note that for the PWM solution, this needs to be adapted to allow to control both, the PWM settings and the control lines
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| 17:37 | Bertl_oO | one solution to that problem might be to use I2C over two wires and map the sensor registers to I2C
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| 17:38 | Bertl_oO | another solution could be to use some kind of serial packet protocol and handle both, I2C and SPI over that
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| 17:41 | Bertl_oO | give me a second to update that though, as we are using a newer version now
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| 17:46 | Bertl_oO | okay, should now be all up to date
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| 18:28 | karan | Bertl_oO :do i need to use lattice diamond tool
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| 20:20 | anuditverma | Hi BAndiT1983, we were discussing yesterday about something need to discussed with maltefiala, I will be here for quite a while now, meanwhile I am following the updated task description on the idea page.
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| 21:18 | anuditverma | Hi, could anyone please help me out, I want to try  the example calls for changing parameters on the camera internal command line mentioned on the Wiki page, how can I test these calls without the camera h/w ? I want to know if there is a provision to test these out on a virtual setup or an emulator.
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| 21:26 | BAndiT1983 | there are 2 tasks in the lab, which describe how to call QEMU
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| 21:26 | BAndiT1983 | maltefiala also posted a link to more or less recent image of the camera firmware
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| 21:27 | BAndiT1983 | we won't use this command line calls in the future, as the daemon, which i'm developing at the moment, will have better performance and access management
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| 21:28 | BAndiT1983 | just take a look at the recent task for dameon, web interface and similar
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| 21:30 | anuditverma | Okay on it, thanks.
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| 22:33 | Bertl_oO | anuditverma: besides the QEMU setup, there is a remote accessible camera setup (might not be available yet) ... check with se6astian|away for details when he is around
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| 22:34 | anuditverma | I will see for sure, thanks Bertl_oO
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| 22:34 | Bertl_oO | note that parameter changes on the camera basically boil down to one of three actions
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| 22:34 | Bertl_oO | 1) writing to a register (memory location)
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| 22:35 | Bertl_oO | 2) accessing an I2C or SPI device on one of the busses
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| 22:35 | Bertl_oO | 3) modifying the FPGA firmware (by uploading new bits)
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| 22:36 | Bertl_oO | the first one can be simulated with any memory address, so no problem there
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| 22:36 | Bertl_oO | the second one is trickier in QEMU, it reqires some virtual QEMU devices in the right places (not there yet)
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| 22:37 | Bertl_oO | the third one is nothing which will have an effect on the QEMU anyway, so it can mostly be replaced by a dummy call/file
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| 22:38 | anuditverma | okay, so one of the three, as in it can handle only one process thread at a time ?
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| 22:38 | Bertl_oO | 'it' being the daemon I presume?
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| 22:38 | anuditverma | yes
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| 22:39 | Bertl_oO | for the first step, a single threaded solution would suffice I guess
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| 22:39 | Bertl_oO | not sure multi threading (for access) is required
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| 22:40 | Bertl_oO | but there will be more than one connection to the daemon
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| 22:40 | anuditverma | okay
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| 22:40 | Bertl_oO | the basic idea is to collect information centrally and provide a 'buffered' version to clients
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| 22:41 | Bertl_oO | actions like changing settings should only be done in a synchronized way
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| 22:50 | anuditverma | the camera firmware here that we are talking about, is it on docker ?
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| 22:54 | Bertl_oO | not as far as I know
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| 22:57 | BAndiT1983 | multithreading need s arising automatically, as i've already preplanned it for sockets
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| 22:57 | BAndiT1983 | testing currently, before i proceed to the protocol
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| 22:58 | BAndiT1983 | why should it be used in docker? camera has to run as fast as possible without too much overhead
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| 22:58 | BAndiT1983 | i have a feeling, that people jump nowadays on some hip technologies, but don't evaluate what stands behind it
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| 22:58 | Bertl_oO | docker is not inherently slow, just bloated :)
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| 22:59 | BAndiT1983 | exactly, i know that it's fast, but the bloat is bothering me
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| 23:00 | BAndiT1983 | same problem with whole java application server thing, it's very annoying to wait for the application to deploy and then to get some error message which does not tell anything helpful
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| 23:00 | anuditverma | not too much of a docker fan, but I might take a step back from the discussion, please carry on O:-)
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| 23:00 | BAndiT1983 | you should not step back, discuss instead, a every input is helpful
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| 23:00 | Bertl_oO | anuditverma: what I'd be interested in is, why do you ask?
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| 23:00 | anuditverma | BAndiT1983 +1 for java annoyance
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| 23:02 | anuditverma | I was curious if I can get hands on playing around with example calls for changing parameters on the camera, so that's why I asked
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| 23:02 | Bertl_oO | do you have an ARM system available?
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| 23:03 | BAndiT1983 | raspberry pi should be sufficient for such playing around, in my opinion
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| 23:03 | BAndiT1983 | at least to understand the basics
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| 23:04 | anuditverma | I do have a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
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| 23:04 | anuditverma | it has ARMv7
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| 23:05 | Bertl_oO | yup
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| 23:05 | Bertl_oO | that would be pretty similar from the kernel/userspace side
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| 23:05 | Bertl_oO | we had a raspian running on the AXIOM Alpha
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| 23:06 | Bertl_oO | was replaced by Arch Linux for the Beta
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| 23:06 | BAndiT1983 | archlinux for raspi is available, so it could be the test base for you, anuditverma
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| 23:06 | Bertl_oO | http://pastebin.com/raw/6XHBinDf
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| 23:07 | anuditverma | Bertl_oO I want to know why raspian was discarded ? any specific reason?
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| 23:07 | BAndiT1983 | i don't remember where the a9 is fitting, iirc it is called armv7-a9
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| 23:08 | BAndiT1983 | as armv8 is awaiting release soon, but i could be mistaken as i don't follo it closely
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| 23:08 | Bertl_oO | detailes for the ARM cores can be found when searching for Zynq SoC on the Xilinx site
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| 23:08 | BAndiT1983 | raspbian was too bloated possibly
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| 23:08 | BAndiT1983 | arch is much slimmer
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| 23:08 | Bertl_oO | anuditverma: we dropped raspian, because it is not a raspberry pi after all
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| 23:08 | anuditverma | I recently upgraded my Pi to Jessie Pixel version
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| 23:08 | anuditverma | ohh okay
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| 23:09 | anuditverma | ok ok cool
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| 23:09 | Bertl_oO | the zynq is on a MicroZed and Xilinx also has a 'custom' Linux variant PetaLinux? for it
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| 23:09 | BAndiT1983 | never used UI on raspi, as ssh was sufficient to get the job done
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| 23:10 | BAndiT1983 | don't know if petalinux has all the packages we need
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| 23:11 | Bertl_oO | but as Arch has worked well, is pretty small and nicely supported on ARM we went for that
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| 23:12 | BAndiT1983 | so, if i get my raspi and arch to build the daemon, would it also run on microzed?
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| 23:12 | Bertl_oO | pretty sure, you might need to adjust the memory locations though
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| 23:13 | BAndiT1983 | not a big problem, it was just about getting it that way or using cross compiler, but there is also the thing with checking which features are available in the compiler
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| 23:15 | BAndiT1983 | prior to that the structure has to be there, afterwards i can adjust it, if the build fails because i mixed C and C++ too much
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| 23:31 | anuditverma | it's a bit late here, I might come up with more queries tomorrow and try to gasp more knowledge about the tech :) , meanwhile I will read more links/resources mentioned on the idea page and I will see if I can get the latest archlinux running on the pi
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| 23:33 | BAndiT1983 | have fun :)
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