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good morning

oh

are here younger ones? under 25?

will this camera get the arri look?

yes

interesting ...

joy*

arri look?

just look at films made in arri?

you will see immediately the arri look

beautifulÜ

must go check the nicks, do they all sound so manly? (re: guys in here)

we are not germans :)

ich rede nicht über dich bertl -.-

komisch. *email address removed* aber server in NL

how can i move to munich to make a internship if i do not have rich parents?

if so, you should immediately know the answer to your question

check with se6astian when he comes back, I'm sure there is a ton of footage available

but how about that internship problem?

are you asking about an internship with apertus? i interpreted the above to mean you are doing an internship right now, in Munich, and that that's only possible because you have rich parents.

in the middle of munich... T__T

lol

i'm 23?

xD

what's wrong with you

you can replace "rich parents" with something else.

so you don't have a cat

a job won't do it

i don't have a cat either, but i also want to go to munich... (just for a visit though) uh-oh

i sleep 50 h a week

and perhaps i need food, cooking, playing

so plenty of time left then

nice joke

168-50-70 = 48h

lol

then 7h a day

no, with 70 hour/week work

i need a lot sleep

tell me about it! (i'm not 23)

24-15-8= x

= 1

noo way

if you are poor, you will stay non-wealthy

not rich.

where is the joyfulness? sounds pretty depressing to me

what did you guys learn?

as a job? what apprenticeship?

oh jesus

reading about it, i like

we?

nope

Bertl is AXIOM Technical Lead

i thought apertus is developing their camera in munich?

Vienna

nope

yep

deep under ground

ooooh

and who is Bertl ?

technical lead

no. i meant: who are the others here

i'm not°

I'm one of the curious folks.

more than one? that's interesting

if you're content with 3fps and an $12000 price tag

I think that's what the CHR70M costs

arri can do it too

huh, they do

2 yrs of develeopment

yeah, you're not getting a 65mm 21MP sensor for cheap

yes, we can

and if it is, it's probably behind an NDA

depending on the tightness of the manufacturer's rectum

I don't

not really if you have a nice income?

its not about me now.

arri amira costs like a nice middle-high-class-car? :D

the axiom is aimed at the lower end of the market

i hope the image will look good .__.

the CMV12000 is a good sensor

probably

oh you dont

a mix I would say

I'm a really technical guy, but I just spectate

so you make movies too?

why are you then here?

again, I'm a technical guy

not again, i do not understand ?

though not sure about anything yet

damnit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuUZjXQCuJw

dont show me your p0rn pls

and to also film day-to-day stuff whenever I need

I am not very statisfied with my hardware, of which I still have quite a bit

oh

10k fps is so boring. but ok. better than 0

the first thing I had on hand

I thought it was excellent.

but I want more.

Rex0r: it is excellently locked and limted :)

there's that

But the possibilities with a good story. I'm a big fan of slo-mo.

I have already found a cheap($600) sensor that will do FHD @ 1000fps if overclocked(to manufacturer's spec, too!)

for example, the beta camera will not be able to handle that, as you'd need a ton of SODIMM ram, two or four slots

it's garbage compared even to the beta in its current state.

which is $1200

it has SOLDERED ON flash memory for recording

actually, no, it's also got 16GB of DDR3

maybe with an FPGA to handle high speed recording?

so, stjepan, do you make movies? so far we only know you want to work with/at arri, but not the why

wait

cinematography*

if not the most beautiful

^hm

oups

something :O

soo. i answered your questions.

now you ask sebastian for more footage :)

Bertl, are you the guy with the beard on the team talk?

*tries to imagine Bertl with a beard*

usually I'm the guy in the suit :)

ii dont like mens in suits

babies in suits

no

no

only male muscular guys in suits.^^ but without top part of the suit

just the fliege

perhaps a krawatte

hm

dunno

but it looks sexy :3

worn by the right people (;

is here a arri user?

ich parshipe jetzt

schip, schip. schnee XD

I don't think arri users are hanging out here very much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9NkEMuBJs0

well here's something quite cool

and barely any noise

I just stumbled upon this gem as well

a whopping 7 terabytes of RAM in a handheld package for $1499

Possibly kaiserlich yeah.

For a number of reasons.

Most of the people using it don't share tips & tricks

i wouldn't give my arri to others too.. in their hands

just not share anything that would make another filmmaker better

it's a joke anyway

i was thinking in more general terms. though hmm, yeah, there are probably also online communities for helicopter owners (; etc.

well, yeah

who might actually own a helicopter

nobody expects people to vlog on RED Mysteriums and strap arris to a bike with duct tape

i guess it depends on if these high-end products are used for business or if they are hobbies

if the camera is just a tool, you're probably less interested (and too busy working with it) to go seek out fellow users to chat with them about it on end

a yacht owner who's yachting for fun (which i'd assume is what most private yacht owners do) is something different

not necessarily...

eh

i think i want make money too with apertus?

if i make movies 7 days a week

so that means you're all lazy :D?

im learning photoshop and web dev and 3d art atm

graphic design: photoshop

software. yes

im just using it

you think adobe will sell my stuff made with their products?

i like working with adobe products (the ones i know anyway) ^^ but don't let them 'phone home'

just block it or?

but what does they look at my pc?

software. and i don't think it's looking at your PC per se, but at your usage of adobe products. what you're doing with(in) their programs

yes. to improve their software.

well... that's what they say

what else should they watch at my adobe using?

at my usage of adobe products

hm

and why is this bad for me?

dunno

tell me a logical argument

hide?

i have.

you might not care about this right now, but all these organisations are amassing data and we don't know what the world will look like in, say, 10 years, and maybe then we don't want them to know we once copy-pasted that one url, or that one e-mail address etc.

so you're just speculating, huh?

well, as we don't know the source, it is hard to tell

high risk trading

the source code

the code oO

nope

so you analysed gimps code completely?

obviously not all code is being analysed all the time, by everyone. and sometimes bad stuff in code (that is publicly available) goes unnoticed for years

the difference is that it _can_ be looked at and analysed

unlike proprietary code

-_-

but that is a 2nd opinion. so....

why?

well, I trust proper statistics :)

and i play games. so i can not use linux os

there's steam for linux. though that isn't open source either :P

no, i meant using linux doesn't mean you cannot play any games at all

*proprietary

my games dont work without steam

i know

win 89?

all this idiots cry bcs "win 10 stoles your data"

these*

can i combine apertus modules with dslr somehow?

perhaps i could take the dslr sensor?^ and just place it inside am module?

why will you even have modules?

different people want different sensors

but only 35mm?

probably

don't think a DSLR sensors would be useful, because A) they're heavily under NDAs and you can't exactly sell a reverse-engineered module, and B) they're highly proprietary and nobody will sell you a thousand modules outside the camera

same is true for Austria

the DSLR sensors are good for what they are made for.. stills photography. For video.. they suck, no matter if you have or not the documentation.. they wont perform any better

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hey @Bertl Regarding the SensorIF PCB v0.18r1.3 on OSH Park now, are the ZIF socket pads capped (because of the via-in-pad)? The set we had made up last Christmas were not, and are rather unreliable.

we toyed around with different variations for the boards

what did you settle on lately?

who used pomodoro technique?

for vapor phase reflow, you probably want to go with the tented vias

tented is different from capped.

yup

ok so here's the deal:

but I'm wondering why you want to go for the ZIF version at all?

so that's the latest 0.25 Power not yet published to the wiki, and our run of SensorIF v0.18r.13 also had capped pads and were filled. so great for reflow as well.

they have a bunch of left-over bare PCBs from that run, which they're willing to sell "at cost".

for Power v0.25 PCB that's US$10.89 each (they have 14 left over).

yeah, that sounds like a good price

OSH Park is nearly 3x that for the Power PCB, but the Sensor IF is about the same, given the capped vias.

so I just wanted to let you & anyone else in the community know, if you're interested in buying them, we're happy to tell SF Circuits to make them available to anyone.

anyway, sounds like a good price to me, so we will find somebody interested and/or buy them ourselves I guess, thanks for letting us know

hehe

oh I see you have finally published Power v0.25 :)

we did some fixes to the microSD, decoupling and pull-ups

honestly i was shocked when SF Circuits wanted to charge for the overage - EVERY other PCB fab house I've used just sends their overage with the requested qty. they claim that charging for overage is "industry standard". maybe in the USA... :-/

i understand nothing while reading here

techydude: maybe suggest to them to get a big banner on our web site on the contributions page?

stjepan: well, some discussions are more technical here

our sales rep is away at an exhibition this week, so he'll probably get back to me next week.

ah, I'm off for a nap ... bbl

tesat

techydude, try dirtypcbs for lulz

see if those boards will actually work

thanks, i'll check them out for prototypes

http://dev.dangerousprototypes.com/store/pcbs

off to bed