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#apertus IRC Channel Logs

2015/05/03

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Bertl
off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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se6astian
good morning
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Bertl
morning folks!
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intracube
what's the easiest way to point to a version of a file in github?
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intracube
nevermind
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se6astian
good day
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intracube
hi se6astian
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intracube
is testing a couple of things before replying to T420
14:29
se6astian
wonderful!
14:41
intracube
se6astian: http://yellerapp.com/posts/2015-01-12-the-worst-server-setup-you-can-make.html
14:41
intracube
:)
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intracube
I'm not sure how correct that page is
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intracube
seems a sane argument for UTC though
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se6astian
your vote is for changing the irc viewer server timezone to UTC I assume?
15:04
intracube
se6astian: I think so
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intracube
but it depends if the server is running anything else
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intracube
which might inadvertently get altered
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Bertl
changing the timezone in the php script should suffice, no?
15:05
intracube
I think the simplest is just to add date_default_timezone_set('UTC');
15:05
intracube
Bertl: yep
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intracube
but I wasn't sure if Apache/PHP would know that the server OS was set to CET
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intracube
or if Apache/PHP just assumes that whatever time it gets back is UTC
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se6astian
I think I tried date_default_timezone_set('UTC'); and the PHP version was too old to support that
15:07
se6astian
but let me check
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Bertl
(unix) time itself is timezone less
15:07
intracube
Bertl: ?
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Bertl
it is just when you want a date representation, that you get e.g. CET
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intracube
Bertl: ah ok. I didn't realise
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Bertl
time in unix is not tied to any timezone
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Bertl
it is the amount of seconds since 1.1.1970
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intracube
right. so epoch is seconds from Jan 1st 1970 UTC
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Bertl
i.e. it will be correct, regardless of the timezone, the problem only appears when you start converting from one to the other or to give a textual/numerical representation different from unix time
15:10
intracube
but since date("H:i") in index.php is returning 17:10 right now. PHP is translating the time
15:10
intracube
somewhere... :)
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intracube
"Prior to PHP 5.4.0 only: Querying the host operating system (if supported and allowed by the OS). This uses an algorithm that has to guess the timezone. This is by no means going to work correctly for every situation. A warning is shown when this stage is reached. Do not rely on it to be guessed correctly, and set date.timezone to the correct timezone instead."
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Bertl
here is my opinion on the issue(s):
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Bertl
the logger is using UTC and also changes files based on UTC
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Bertl
so, unless you want to do mapping of single entries/messages
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Bertl
you want to go for UTC on the php script as well
15:13
intracube
yep
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Bertl
today will then always be today, and "now" will be in sync with the logger
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Bertl
if we want to support time zones at the web interface level
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Bertl
we need to break the logs down into single "events" and use the unix timestamp there
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Bertl
this will create "new" days according to the timezone
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se6astian
I want to go for UTC in the log viewer as well
15:17
se6astian
we are running PHP Version 5.0.4, date_default_timezone_set requires (PHP 5 >= 5.1.0)
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intracube
se6astian: what about editing php.ini ?
15:18
Bertl
that is probably a bad idea :)
15:18
intracube
and not supported before 5.1.0 anyway :/
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intracube
and might break any other .php scripts
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Bertl
but I think there is a timezone setting on older php, IIRC, it was there since 2.x :)
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se6astian
http://php.net/manual/en/function.gmdate.php ?
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Bertl
try ini_set( 'date.timezone', 'UTC' );
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se6astian
done
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se6astian
it still says: Current Server Time: 17:28 (Central Europe)
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Bertl
check the logs, maybe the ini_set() is blocked by security
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Bertl
can be overridden IIRC
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se6astian
will check
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Bertl
but maybe a php update is in order, 5.0.4 was released 2005 IIRC
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se6astian
you do that every decade, "already"? :)
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se6astian
php error reports only: [03-May-2015 17:16:23] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function date_default_timezone_set() in /domain/apertus.org/irc./html/index.php on line 2
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se6astian
VLOG-2015-05-irc.apertus.org.log I dont have read permissions
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intracube
gtg - rain + lightning nearby
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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se6astian
off to bed
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gnight
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