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| 07:13 | Bertl | morning folks!
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| 10:36 | Bertl | anybody interested in helping out with data collection?
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| 12:43 | danieel | Bertl: what data collection?
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| 14:08 | Bertl | I'm currently investigating various connectors and I need somebody to check prices/availability on different distributors
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| 21:04 | eadmund | yo
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| 21:11 | edmundronald | re.
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| 21:12 | edmundronald | I would like an update on the microzed carrier board?
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| 21:16 | Bertl | hey, what kind of update do you have in mind?
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| 21:17 | edmundronald | I wondered where you are with it?
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| 21:18 | edmundronald | After making me wait for a decision for 3 weeks, Cruse have bowed out of the prelim study
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| 21:18 | Bertl | design phase, component identification, testing small parts
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| 21:19 | edmundronald | so i need to decide myself whether I go with zedboard, microzed or something else
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| 21:19 | Bertl | yes, zedboard is basically available, but requires you to build the SFE yourself
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| 21:19 | edmundronald | SFE?
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| 21:20 | Bertl | sensor front-end
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| 21:20 | edmundronald | and microzed doesn't?
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| 21:20 | Bertl | microzed is work in progress, parts/testing will be available soon
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| 21:21 | edmundronald | a possible alternative for me might be to use *something* with a Lattice LVDS bridge
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| 21:22 | Bertl | I guess there are many possible alternatives ... depends on what you want to do :)
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| 21:22 | edmundronald | whole point here is I am not sure yet. I don't have a sensor choice.
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| 21:23 | edmundronald | I was thinking of replicating your proto for testing
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| 21:23 | Bertl | I remember
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| 21:24 | edmundronald | I guess I could also start with Microzed ...
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| 21:26 | edmundronald | maybe I should just order *anything* t get off the ground. Whatever happens I will need to make a sensor interface, it looks like.
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| 21:26 | Bertl | you will also need to figure out the basics with whatever FPGA platform you choose
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| 21:27 | Bertl | like tool setup, synthesis, debugging, testing, etc
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| 21:27 | edmundronald | yes, so I am wondering whether I should order Zedboard or Microzed initially.
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| 21:28 | edmundronald | ideally, I would use a platform that exists, but that doesn't seem to exist :(
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| 21:29 | Bertl | I'd say it is mainly a matter of resources
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| 21:29 | edmundronald | ?
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| 21:30 | edmundronald | Matrix determination is apparently of great interest to the digital cinema guys.
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| 21:30 | Bertl | for the right price, we can probably build another axiom alpha for you and have it shipped (without sensor) in a week or so :)
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| 21:31 | edmundronald | what sort of price are we talking about ?
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| 21:32 | Bertl | a few thousand euro I guess, it would have to make sense for us to spend time on that
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| 21:32 | edmundronald | urk.
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| 21:33 | Bertl | but the point is, it's not that the platform doesn't exist, it is just to much money or efford for you to get it :)
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| 21:33 | edmundronald | what sort of price will micro zedboard extensions go for?
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| 21:34 | Bertl | we haven't decided yet, but the basic setup will be rather affordable
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| 21:34 | Bertl | we haven't decided -> we don't know what we put on the basic setup
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| 21:34 | edmundronald | I get your point. If it were a camera it would be no problem. But as a development tool that has a limited lifetime it's different
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| 21:36 | edmundronald | so I guess I'll be very pleased to get the "affordable" version :)
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| 21:37 | Bertl | I guess so, just make sure that you do not miss the crowdfunding, as it will be hard to get one in the beginning
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| 21:37 | edmundronald | re calibration, what you really need is a measuring device (spectro). A ColorMunki is probably enough.
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| 21:37 | Bertl | and you probably want to benefit from the extra nice price as well
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| 21:38 | edmundronald | Once you have that, you want to get a target with a decent gamut.
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| 21:38 | edmundronald | you measure the patches, in decent light, and then you write the code which creates the matrix.
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| 21:38 | Bertl | feel free to send us whatever you consider helpful
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| 21:39 | edmundronald | well, we could swap a decent measurement instrument for a board :)
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| 21:39 | Bertl | if it works with linux, we might consider that :)
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| 21:40 | edmundronald | It works with Graeme Gill's Argyll
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| 21:41 | edmundronald | interestingly, my friends are getting a lot of interest from the cinema industry re. matrices
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| 21:42 | edmundronald | so I'm thinking of revisiting this stuff myself.
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| 21:44 | edmundronald | send me an email when you get to the crowdfunding stage, please, so I don't miss it.
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| 21:44 | Bertl | I can try to remember, but it's probably better to check periodically on the web site
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| 21:45 | edmundronald | when do you expect?
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| 21:45 | Bertl | I'm sure you won't be able to miss it there :)
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| 21:45 | Bertl | we are currently finishing the horizon 2020 work and I hope we'll start soon (i.e. this month or at most the next one)
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| 21:46 | edmundronald | how hard is it to get lvds signals on/off the microzed?
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| 21:46 | edmundronald | are the connectors normal stuff?
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| 21:47 | edmundronald | Soy seem to be using micro-lvds, with a 0.9V center point (I don't know the terminology)
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| 21:47 | edmundronald | and I wonder how hard it would be to improvise an interface.
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| 21:50 | Bertl | the connectors feature 2x24LVDS pairs on two 100pin FCI connectors
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| 21:50 | edmundronald | beautiful renders on the web site.
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| 21:51 | edmundronald | can the center voltage be adjusted or is it fixed?
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| 21:51 | Bertl | the 0.9V is called sub LVDS
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| 21:51 | edmundronald | ah.
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| 21:52 | edmundronald | can the board be set to do that or is it nececessary to translate?
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| 21:52 | Bertl | the common voltage is not a big problem on the xilinx fpgas, the swing could be, not sure how much the zynq requires
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| 21:54 | Bertl | but it should work, unless they are really on the limit
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| 21:54 | edmundronald | Ah. That is good news. I only need a few lines initially, can multiplex probably, because I'm doing stills.
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| 21:55 | Bertl | multiplexing LVDS is not a good idea, unless you have (usually expensive) multiplexers
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| 21:56 | edmundronald | I mean, the chip can be said to use only a few lines, I think.
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| 21:56 | Bertl | ah, yes, they usually do
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| 21:56 | edmundronald | and as I can wait for the image ...
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| 21:57 | edmundronald | ok, thanks for your time. I'll be in touch. If you need help with color, email me.
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| 21:58 | edmundronald | bye
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