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|  | 07:44 | supragya |     BAndiT1983, ever had libtool problems with VS?
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|  | 08:19 | BAndiT1983 |     supragya, what do you mean?
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|  | 08:20 | supragya |     BAndiT1983, nvm... arch had some problems!, had to downgrade some libs
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|  | 08:21 | supragya |     somehow two different versions of libtool and libtoolize were sitting there
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|  | 08:21 | supragya |     BAndiT1983, I understood way of writing plugin.. need to implement...doing it
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|  | 08:22 | BAndiT1983 |     have you succeeeded in creating most simple plugin which you can call from script?
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|  | 08:22 | supragya |     I have succeeded in making the build process work :) this libtool had me all night
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|  | 08:23 | supragya |     What I have gathered is that we are to be writing a filter... aren't we?
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|  | 08:23 | BAndiT1983 |     i don't know the details about VS, never tried to implement a plugin for that
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|  | 08:23 | BAndiT1983 |     what is libtool?
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|  | 08:24 | supragya |     just give me a little more time
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|  | 08:24 | supragya |     well libtool is supposed to make makefile which aids make
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|  | 08:24 | BAndiT1983 |     seems rather old
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|  | 08:25 | BAndiT1983 |     using cmake usually for make stuff
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|  | 08:25 | supragya |     I have too... Using CLion now
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|  | 08:25 | supragya |     but we did not create VapourSynth... do we :)
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|  | 08:25 | BAndiT1983 |     ?
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|  | 08:25 | BAndiT1983 |     are you sure you will be able to debug through OCcore with clion?
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|  | 08:26 | supragya |     Not an idea but can make a script... that's my aim for now
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|  | 08:26 | BAndiT1983 |     seems like you are trying to do too much
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|  | 08:26 | supragya |     [have you succeeeded in creating most simple plugin which you can call from script?] - If this is successful... I see OCcore addition would be not too hard
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|  | 08:26 | BAndiT1983 |     just take qtcreator, which has all the tools you need at the moment
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|  | 08:27 | BAndiT1983 |     just create a plugin first, no need to rush forward, before you even have some code which is recognized by VS
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|  | 08:27 | BAndiT1983 |     before even considering adding OCcore
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|  | 08:27 | supragya |     that's what I am doing... believe me.. I am not rushing... doing just what you sid
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|  | 08:27 | supragya |     *said
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|  | 08:27 | BAndiT1983 |     and you should be able to debug through OCcore in case of problems
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|  | 08:28 | BAndiT1983 |     in case of problems with IDE i cannot help much, as i know intellij from same team, but used clion only barely to take a quick look long time ago
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|  | 08:29 | supragya |     Using Clion just for jumps and definitions
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|  | 08:29 | supragya |     nothing more
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|  | 08:29 | supragya |     still building old school way... terminal
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|  | 08:30 | supragya |     Let me get some result... then discuss
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|  | 08:30 | BAndiT1983 |     i'm doubting a bit that you will be able to debug, if you are building through terminal
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|  | 08:31 | BAndiT1983 |     as an IDE needs symbol files for code mapping
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|  | 08:32 | BAndiT1983 |     have you tried to open cmakelsits.txt or cmake project in clion?
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|  | 08:32 | supragya |     Yes
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|  | 08:33 | BAndiT1983 |     has clion succeeeded to build OC?
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|  | 08:35 | supragya |     no
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|  | 08:37 | BAndiT1983 |     that could be a problem, as debugging is very important for software development
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|  | 10:44 | Bertl |     morning folks!
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|  | 10:44 | BAndiT1983 |     hi
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|  | 10:47 | supragya |     hi Bertl
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|  | 10:56 | supragya |     BAndiT1983, Bertl seems like www.apertus.org's certificate has expired
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|  | 11:04 | Bertl |     happens every now and then ...
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|  | 11:21 | Bertl |     (will be fixed soon)
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|  | 11:40 | supragya |     BAndiT1983, I am able to run VS and stream the output to a player
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|  | 11:40 | BAndiT1983 |     very good
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|  | 11:40 | supragya |     although the plugin is not mine
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|  | 11:40 | supragya |     Let me explain
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|  | 11:41 | supragya |     the simple plugin you said that would read a file and stream it out
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|  | 11:41 | supragya |     is actually a full fledged plugin like ffms2 and avisource
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|  | 11:42 | supragya |     and even they only deal with only a few formats
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|  | 11:43 | supragya |     However the plugin creation process is simply creation of a dynamic library
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|  | 11:43 | supragya |     .so
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|  | 11:43 | supragya |     or .dll
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|  | 11:43 | BAndiT1983 |     ?
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|  | 11:43 | BAndiT1983 |     i don't understant what's going on
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|  | 11:43 | BAndiT1983 |     what full fledged plugin?
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|  | 11:44 | BAndiT1983 |     the plugin should simply request data through OCcore lib and pass it on to V
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|  | 11:44 | BAndiT1983 |     *VS
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|  | 11:44 | supragya |     well, you asked me, I should start by writing a plugin that could read a video file and stream it out
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|  | 11:44 | supragya |     that is what FFMS2 does
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|  | 11:45 | BAndiT1983 |     ???
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|  | 11:45 | BAndiT1983 |     when have i asked that?
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|  | 11:45 | BAndiT1983 |     i've suggesteds to implement a simple plugin so you can learn how it is done for VS
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|  | 11:45 | BAndiT1983 |     afterwards to bind OCcore and pass one frame to VS, maybe also try to serve it to another player which does not support DNG
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|  | 11:46 | supragya |     okay..
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|  | 11:46 | supragya |     will work on it now...
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|  | 11:46 | BAndiT1983 |     why should we need some video plugin, when there are tons out there, which use FFMPEG, we need special ones for RAW data
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|  | 11:46 | supragya |     But have to say.. there is very little documentation for VS
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|  | 11:46 | supragya |     I thought you suggested as an exercise
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|  | 11:46 | BAndiT1983 |     i know, had also to go through docs, forums, source code and different examples to get it to work back then
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|  | 11:47 | BAndiT1983 |     yes, as an excercise so you learn VS internals, but it should be the base of OC plugin
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|  | 11:47 | BAndiT1983 |     don't have time at the moment to draw some diagram for the pipeline
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|  | 11:48 | BAndiT1983 |     but i've posted it here before some times
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|  | 11:48 | supragya |     I remember it
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|  | 11:48 | supragya |     don't worry
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|  | 11:52 | supragya |     BAndiT1983, this one right? [occore -> vs plugin -> vs -> vsfs/avfs? -> video editor]
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|  | 11:52 | BAndiT1983 |     yes
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|  | 11:52 | BAndiT1983 |     plugin just has to
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|  | 11:53 | BAndiT1983 |     - load requested file through occore, by using img loader and maybe debayer
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|  | 11:53 | BAndiT1983 |     - pass the data to VS
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|  | 11:53 | BAndiT1983 |     - VS passes it further
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|  | 11:53 | supragya |     got it
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|  | 11:54 | BAndiT1983 |     have to sit down and implement own prototype, but ither stuff is taking my attention at the moment
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|  | 11:54 | supragya |     Take your time, I will figure things out with general prototype creation
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|  | 11:54 | supragya |     and then will move to incorporate debayer
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|  | 11:54 | supragya |     *occore
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|  | 11:55 | supragya |     [ general prototype creation] - general way of making plugin
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|  | 11:55 | BAndiT1983 |     i think GetFrame() from VS is the central point, you should inspect the source code or docs, to find out which formats it does accept
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|  | 11:56 | supragya |     yes it is
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|  | 11:56 | supragya |     it is the central point
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|  | 11:56 | BAndiT1983 |     i've meant, to create sample code for myself, so i know how it works
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|  | 11:56 | supragya |     but registering a filter etc are also nitty gritties
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|  | 11:56 | supragya |     sample code - that is what I am concentrating on now too
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|  | 11:57 | BAndiT1983 |     that's always a problem with plugins, every application has its own quirks
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|  | 11:57 | BAndiT1983 |     implemented plugins for 3ds max long time ago, was no fun at the beginning, as registering it was already cumbersome
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|  | 11:59 | supragya |     I guess, setup was cumbersome till now. Let's see :)
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|  | 12:00 | BAndiT1983 |     luckily the source code is open, you can also look at the code of other plugins to get the idea, as you will learn, if you try it from scratch
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|  | 12:01 | BAndiT1983 |     at least for me it'S easier to learn that way, than trying to pick around in some big source code
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|  | 12:01 | supragya |     New for you too?
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|  | 12:01 | supragya |     why did you select VS, I wonder
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|  | 12:02 | supragya |     :0
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|  | 12:02 | supragya |     [ you can also look at the code of other plugins to get the idea] - looks like the only way here
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|  | 12:03 | BAndiT1983 |     we have looked around a bit and as avisynth was very popular and VS is successor to it, we have chosen it
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|  | 12:03 | BAndiT1983 |     if you have some alternative, then you could propose it
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|  | 12:04 | BAndiT1983 |     we just wanted some frame server for custom data, magiclantern forum has some, but they are using fuse which was difficult to setup in windows
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|  | 12:05 | supragya |     are we worried about windows much?
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|  | 12:05 | BAndiT1983 |     another alternative is to extend AVFS so it serves our data as AVI, or something like that, nut this whole stuff needs evaluation
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|  | 12:05 | BAndiT1983 |     why not? OC is also focussing on 2 systems, maybe also on OSX later
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|  | 12:06 | BAndiT1983 |     people prefer different OSes, so why should we limit them
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|  | 12:06 | supragya |     AVFS has hard time running with VS on linux
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|  | 12:06 | supragya |     streaming seems the only way
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|  | 12:07 | supragya |     I am using VS-editor with inbuilt player, so I could stream and test without using AVFS
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|  | 12:07 | BAndiT1983 |     inbuilt player is ok for now, but some dummy AVI for other players is important for later
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|  | 12:07 | BAndiT1983 |     i would still suggest VLC for later tests
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|  | 12:08 | supragya |     I guess it is, but once we have streams, it would be a matter of using FS for it
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|  | 12:08 | supragya |     another story
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|  | 12:09 | BAndiT1983 |     to be honest, haven't investigated that
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|  | 12:09 | supragya |     BAndiT1983, also VS plugin for OCcore is the GSoC thing, how much should I be doing by now? or it may change?
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|  | 12:09 | BAndiT1983 |     tasks can be changed, we can just extend it later
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|  | 12:09 | supragya |     [to be honest, haven't investigated that] - I am speculating too
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|  | 12:10 | BAndiT1983 |     i know the basics of the streaming, how it sohuld work and such, but haven't actually tried to do it myself
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|  | 12:10 | supragya |     Last time, you made a plugin?
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|  | 12:10 | supragya |     what did it do?
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|  | 12:11 | BAndiT1983 |     ?
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|  | 12:12 | supragya |     i know, had also to go through docs, forums, source code and different examples to get it to work back then - this
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|  | 12:12 | supragya |     to get VS running or to make plugin
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|  | 12:14 | BAndiT1983 |     partially for my work for hobby film group, to clear up bluescreen videos, but also for last gsoc, so i'm prepared to answer questions from students, regarding VS plugin
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|  | 12:15 | supragya |     last time, did anyone came for plugin?
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|  | 12:16 | supragya |     gsoc wise?
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|  | 12:16 | BAndiT1983 |     no
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|  | 12:16 | supragya |     any proposal
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|  | 12:16 | supragya |     okay
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|  | 12:17 | BAndiT1983 |     we ditched OC last year in favor of REST interface, internal discussions brought the importance of camera remote control up
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|  | 12:18 | BAndiT1983 |     this would be also an interesting task this year, but currently we are evaluating another approach for UI communication, so there is no time to create task for it yet
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|  | 12:19 | supragya |     so OC is in the race?
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|  | 12:21 | BAndiT1983 |     this year are more people attending, which are interested in C++, so yes
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|  | 12:22 | BAndiT1983 |     also looking forward for new ideas from people for apertus GSoC
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|  | 12:22 | BAndiT1983 |     we are not limited to given ones
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|  | 12:23 | supragya |     Well, I have come quite far on this.... so wont be proposing any new ones
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|  | 12:23 | supragya |     Lets see how it goes
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|  | 12:23 | BAndiT1983 |     if you are happy with the task, then it can be extended in any direction which fits the mainline of it
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|  | 12:24 | BAndiT1983 |     my opinion on gsoc is, that it sohuld teach both sides
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|  | 12:24 | supragya |     on that note, have you seen the sdk folder of VS?
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|  | 12:25 | supragya |     there is a good example of a plugin, in your free time have a look.
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|  | 12:26 | BAndiT1983 |     will do it, as it's necessary that i get the overview, so i can help you
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|  | 12:27 | supragya |     Also, what is highest bit depth we are going to work with?
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|  | 12:27 | BAndiT1983 |     good question, but for display it should be 8 bit per channel (24bit) for now
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|  | 12:28 | supragya |     That stuck to me... But I thought it is not C++ challenge... so asked
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|  | 12:29 | supragya |     *struck
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|  | 12:30 | BAndiT1983 |     it's just a general thing, as real 10bit displays are still rare and very expensive
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|  | 13:26 | nmdis1999 |     Hey Bertl, read the article for which you gave the link here. It indeed is helpful! I had one doubt though.
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|  | 13:28 | Bertl |     yes?
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|  | 13:28 | nmdis1999 |     How should one make a timeline for the task, should we contact the mentor of the task to get help in it?
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|  | 13:28 | nmdis1999 |     Or do it ourselves?
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|  | 13:29 | Bertl |     well, it is your time and you want to present a plan how to tackle a given problem
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|  | 13:29 | Bertl |     we will of course provide feedback for that as well
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|  | 13:31 | nmdis1999 |     Oh..Okay, great :) Also, about early submission. As submission begins from 12th of March. Is it fine, if I get proposal reviewed in that duration, or before? Since, I guess many people will try to reach out you guys during that time of course.
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|  | 13:33 | Bertl |     sure, as time permits, we will do reviews and provide feedback
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|  | 13:33 | nmdis1999 |     Thanks for the help :D
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|  | 13:35 | Bertl |     no problem at all ... what we don't like is if feedback we provide gets ignored and the same or similar issues are present in the next iteration ;-)
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|  | 13:44 | nmdis1999 |     I'll keep that in mind, you guys have been really helpful. :D
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|  | 13:45 | Bertl |     you're welcome!
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|  | 14:10 | nmdis1999 |     @Sebastian : If you read this, I was going through Datasheet CMV12000 v.2.11 and in Temperature Sensor, slope is calculated by (3.5*CLK_IN)/30
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|  | 14:10 | nmdis1999 |     What is CLK_IN here? I couldn't find it in that section.
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|  | 14:13 | nmdis1999 |     never mind , got it xD
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|  | 14:14 | TofuLynx |     Hey BAndiT1983, have you moved in yet?
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|  | 14:16 | nmdis1999 |     Hey, TofuLynx! Have you added FOSS license?
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|  | 14:21 | Bertl |     off for now ... bbl
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|  | 14:24 | TofuLynx |     Yeah I have. I added GPLv3
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|  | 14:32 | supragya |     Hi TofuLynx
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|  | 14:34 | supragya |     Hi Iti, nmdis1999
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|  | 14:46 | nmdis1999 |     Hey, supragya! How are you?
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|  | 14:47 | supragya |     nice! how's pre GSoC objectives working out
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|  | 14:47 | supragya |     Which project you took?
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|  | 14:49 | nmdis1999 |     I took T720, Managment of sensor calibration files. It's intresting. I'm just trying to figure out things about image sensoring. Sebastian provided some datasheet, just going through it.
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|  | 14:49 | nmdis1999 |     This project does require research. What about you?
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|  | 14:49 | supragya |     nice :)
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|  | 14:50 | supragya |     well mine is creating a VS plugin for OCcore.... close to making it... (maybe)
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|  | 14:50 | nmdis1999 |     Wow, that's great! You've already started working on the task :D
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|  | 14:51 | nmdis1999 |     When's your midsem?
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|  | 14:51 | supragya |     BAndiT1983 asked me, so why not
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|  | 14:51 | nmdis1999 |     Yeah, right :)
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|  | 14:51 | supragya |     Well CAT2 is going on... 1 month to sem Final assessment
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|  | 14:52 | supragya |     We have CAT1 CAT2 FAT
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|  | 14:52 | supragya |     Had exam today... :)
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|  | 14:52 | nmdis1999 |     I see, my minor 1 is starting from 5th. It's going to be tough to handle both exams and working on task for a week I guess.
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|  | 14:52 | nmdis1999 |     How it went?
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|  | 14:52 | supragya |     Well, stories were written
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|  | 14:53 | supragya |     Boring tha kaafi.
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|  | 14:53 | nmdis1999 |     Ahahaha...I understand. I can manage PCM but electrical science needs practice.
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|  | 14:53 | nmdis1999 |     ye minor le ga meri ache se.
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|  | 14:54 | supragya |     PM for Hindi:)
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|  | 14:54 | nmdis1999 |     Sure, I did send you friend request on fb though xD
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|  | 15:05 | TofuLynx |     Hey guys!
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|  | 15:06 | TofuLynx |     nmdis1999:  If I get accepted, I will have to handle exams and the task for 1 month..
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|  | 15:06 | TofuLynx |     :/
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|  | 15:12 | supragya |     everybody will have to TofuLynx , that's GSoC
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|  | 15:13 | TofuLynx |     Yeah
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|  | 15:16 | nmdis1999 |     Same @TofuLynx midsem2 and end term
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|  | 15:30 | supragya |     [If I get accepted, I will have to handle exams and the task for 1 month..] - flying too high ? TofuLynx XD
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|  | 15:30 | TofuLynx |     Maybe xD
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|  | 15:31 | TofuLynx |     I won't stop being ambitious :p
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|  | 15:34 | supragya |     :) good
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|  | 22:09 | TofuLynx_ |     BAndiT1983 , are you occupied right now?
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|  | 22:10 | BAndiT1983 |     hi, have a bit of time
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|  | 22:10 | TofuLynx_ |     I cannot find where and what exactly is the image buffer size that PreviewPane gets
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|  | 22:13 | BAndiT1983 |     preprocessor writes to R, G and B arrays, also set OCImage width and height
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|  | 22:13 | TofuLynx_ |     and then the presenter uses this
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|  | 22:13 | TofuLynx_ |     ProcessingView::SetFrame(OCImage &image)
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|  | 22:13 | TofuLynx_ |     right?
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|  | 22:14 | BAndiT1983 |     previewpane takes width and height of OCImage
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|  | 22:14 | se6astian|away |  changed nick to:     se6astian
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|  | 22:14 | BAndiT1983 |     you don't have to adjust preview pane
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|  | 22:15 | TofuLynx_ |     the problem is
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|  | 22:15 | TofuLynx_ |     i adjust the image's width and height to half
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|  | 22:15 | TofuLynx_ |     and on the preview pane it gets a weird effect,
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|  | 22:15 | TofuLynx_ |     I will send a screenshot
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|  | 22:18 | TofuLynx_ |     normal one, without setting the width and height to half, so it tiles
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|  | 22:18 | TofuLynx_ |     https://i.imgur.com/oJBE0ki.png
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|  | 22:20 | TofuLynx_ |     after setting the values to half: https://i.imgur.com/LzzVVVL.png
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|  | 22:20 | se6astian |  changed nick to:     se6astian|away
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|  | 22:24 | BAndiT1983 |     i know this behavior, but don't remembrer what causes it
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|  | 22:24 | BAndiT1983 |     you should debug through it and look for significant places where data is processed
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|  | 22:25 | BAndiT1983 |     sorry, can't help much at the moment, am busy with moving to new apartment over the day
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|  | 22:25 | TofuLynx_ |     no problem :)
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|  | 22:25 | BAndiT1983 |     off for today, need to refresh my battery
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|  | 22:25 | TofuLynx_ |     any idea where it could be?
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|  | 22:25 | TofuLynx_ |     Ok! Goodnight! Be well!
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|  | 22:25 | BAndiT1983 |     preprocessor
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|  | 22:25 | BAndiT1983 |     or loader
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|  | 22:25 | BAndiT1983 |     i would re-adjust the image data in preprocessor, which should be your downscaler class
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|  | 22:26 | BAndiT1983 |     maybe i have a bit of time at the beginning of the next week, please fork the repository and commit your code, so i can take a look
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|  | 22:26 | BAndiT1983 |     do you know how to do it?
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|  | 22:28 | BAndiT1983 |     just write, i will look at the logs tomorrow
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|  | 22:28 | BAndiT1983 |  changed nick to:     BAndiT1983|away
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