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07:58 | se6astian | good day
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07:58 | se6astian | and welcome to the new work year :)
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11:41 | Bertl | morning folks!
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13:56 | LordVan | hi
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13:59 | se6astian | hi LordVan!
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13:59 | se6astian | do you remember I asked some time ago if your laser can cut very thin steel sheets if sandwiched in other materials (wood or other metal) - did you have a chance to try already?
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14:00 | se6astian | 0.01mm, 0.02mm or 0.03mm for example
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14:13 | LordVan | yeah taht is not goign to work it'll just be soldered together 90% of the time
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14:14 | LordVan | so even if it was done you'D have to produce a lot more than are usuable afterwards
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14:14 | LordVan | so not really something feasible
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14:58 | se6astian | right, thanks for checking!
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16:00 | se6astian | MEETING TIME
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16:00 | se6astian | who is here?
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16:01 | Bertl | is here ...
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16:03 | se6astian | any news Bertl?
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16:03 | Bertl | yes, this time I have some ;)
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16:03 | se6astian | great!
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16:03 | se6astian | please share
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16:04 | Bertl | well, first I almost completed two ZIF SFEs (all parts except for the HD connectors are done)
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16:04 | Bertl | so I'll probably finish them up tonight and get them tested tomorrow
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16:05 | se6astian | excellent!
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16:05 | Bertl | then, when searching for cables for a project of mine, I stumbled over a chinese company called 'Twozoh' which produces all kinds of HDMI cables
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16:06 | Bertl | and in particular, two of their models caught my attention
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16:06 | Bertl | one is labeled 'ultra thin HDMI cable' and I immediately ordered some samples there as the cables are quite cheap and really very flexible and thin
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16:07 | Bertl | they are thinner than many micro USB cables I've seen and they claim 4K at lengths up to two meters
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16:08 | Bertl | and I thought those might be perfect for conencting the Beta with the Recorder or Preview Monitor
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16:08 | se6astian | oh!
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16:08 | se6astian | sounds very good
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16:08 | Bertl | I plan to test them in the next few days
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16:08 | se6astian | as stiff and bulky cables are a major headache for me currently with the recorder enclosure
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16:08 | Bertl | yeah, if they work, you'll love them
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16:08 | se6astian | they arrived already?
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16:09 | Bertl | I got two of the three samples I've ordered already
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16:09 | Bertl | the other model they sell are fiber optic HDMI 2.0 cables
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16:09 | Bertl | which are available up to 150m
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16:10 | Bertl | but I didn't order any of those yet because they are rather expensive
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16:10 | Bertl | (the flexible ones are quite cheap)
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16:10 | se6astian | is it this model? https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Twozoh-Ultra-Cable-Flexible-Supports/dp/B09FT1MNSC
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16:10 | Bertl | yes
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16:11 | se6astian | perfect
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16:11 | se6astian | very curious about the signal quality
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16:11 | se6astian | what price did you pay?
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16:11 | se6astian | because 10€ on amazon isnt that great
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16:11 | Bertl | I ordered them from amazon so about 10 EUR it was :)
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16:11 | se6astian | ah, right :
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16:11 | se6astian | )
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16:12 | Bertl | that's it from my side for this week
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16:14 | se6astian | many thanks
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16:14 | se6astian | what are you thoughts about cables like this? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002899519702.html
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16:14 | se6astian | I assume the lack of shielding makes this a bad choice
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16:15 | Bertl | I've considered those but there are a bunch of potential issues I see with them
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16:15 | Bertl | first, as you mentioned, shielding can be a big issue there
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16:16 | Bertl | then, having several connectors and signal transitions (HDMI to PCB, PCB to FPC, FPC to FFC and the same on the other end in reverse)
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16:17 | se6astian | right, so I better stay away from those
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16:17 | Bertl | but we could certainly test those as well
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16:17 | se6astian | 1080p60 is a rather "light" challenge for HDMI I guess
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16:17 | se6astian | so it could also just work?
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16:18 | Bertl | of course it could just work
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16:18 | se6astian | ok, maybe I will order one of those then :)
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16:19 | se6astian | quick updates from me:
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16:19 | Bertl | as I said, we can certainly test them, we have all means to evaluate cables now with the hash based tests
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16:19 | Bertl | (at least for our purpose ;)
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16:19 | se6astian | as you probably noticed the CCC talk last week was a full success
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16:19 | se6astian | lots of questions in the Q&A afterwards
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16:19 | se6astian | and a few new visitors to IRC as well
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16:20 | se6astian | the video should now go online soon as well
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16:20 | se6astian | I 3d printed a bracket for the ZIF socket today but because there is almost no space for it between the skeleton frame and the ZIF socket I was skeptical and indeed its too fragile
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16:21 | se6astian | https://cloud.apertus.org/index.php/apps/gallery/s/aroXPrykksDCnwk#IMG_20220103_174945.jpg
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16:21 | se6astian | or the shape not suited for SLA printing
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16:22 | se6astian | so I was not thinking about laser cutting a black 0.5mm acrylic sheet instead and gluing it on the ZIF socket with a tiny drop of glue in two corners
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16:22 | se6astian | *now thinking
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16:23 | Bertl | what
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16:23 | se6astian | on another project front I started 3d printing a new axiom recorder enclosure (because the connectors and bulky cables are really no fun
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16:23 | Bertl | *what's the advantage over index pegs?
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16:23 | se6astian | one beta dev kit should also be ready to ship to oscar in belgium in the coming days
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16:24 | se6astian | that are the topics from my side so far
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16:25 | se6astian | I am open to see the index pegs idea in action as I don't really know how its gonna look like
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16:25 | se6astian | I already shared my concern that blocking certain holes on the ZIF will not be obvious to users inserting the sensor but maybe I get convinced when I see it
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16:26 | Bertl | well, it's gonna look like a closed pin hole ;)
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16:26 | Bertl | potentially with some bright color to notice it :)
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16:28 | Bertl | anyway, yes, we can do some tests there as well ...
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16:28 | se6astian | great
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16:28 | se6astian | anyone else with topics or questions to share/ask
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16:30 | se6astian | then MEETING CONCLUDED, thanks Bertl and I hope to see more people around here again soon!
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16:30 | Bertl | thanks for the moderation!
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16:50 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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16:50 | Bertl | changed nick to: Bertl_oO
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