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07:20 | supragya | Hi ymc98 !
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07:23 | ymc98 | Hi
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07:24 | ymc98 | Any pointers making draft proposal?
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07:25 | supragya | Not much... First GSoC try?
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07:28 | supragya | Btw, what is your area of interest... the project on which you are putting forth the proposal?
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08:01 | Bertl | morning folks!
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08:02 | Bertl | ymc98: here some hints: http://teom.org/blog/kde/how-to-write-a-kick-ass-proposal-for-google-summer-of-code/
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08:02 | Bertl | http://write.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/writing-a-proposal/
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08:05 | Bertl | in general the same rules that apply for a CV also apply to a GSoC proposal: it should be nicely done, properly formated, well structured and easy to read, and last but not least, on topic :)
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08:28 | Bertl | also, do not hesitate to present your proposal to us for review and feedback
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09:00 | ymc98 | Bertl : Thanks!
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09:00 | Bertl | you're welcome!
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09:02 | ymc98 | It
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09:02 | ymc98 | is my first try
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09:03 | Bertl | no problem at all, the community here will help you
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09:08 | ymc98 | supragya : I think I should consult my professor to select the proposal to put forth. I must take the pragmatic approach since it's my first time.
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11:37 | TofuLynx | Hello!
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14:26 | supragya | BAndiT1983, something crossed my mind... for VS plugin
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14:26 | BAndiT1983 | yes?
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14:26 | supragya | FFmpegSource2 plugin has this problem
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14:26 | supragya | No audio support in VapourSynth
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14:27 | supragya | I don't see if we will need audio support
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14:27 | supragya | or will we?
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14:28 | supragya | as we are only concerned with Sequences like DNG
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14:28 | BAndiT1983 | first step DNG sequences, no need to jump ahead
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14:29 | supragya | However, generally exports are done in sequence to remove lossy quality and an mp3/wav along with them
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14:29 | supragya | first step DNG sequences, no need to jump ahead - sure
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14:29 | BAndiT1983 | audio may come later, but it's seldom encoded in CDNG
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14:29 | supragya | sure!
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14:32 | BAndiT1983 | have you succeeded in creating a simple plugin, which can be called from script?
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14:32 | BAndiT1983 | i mean without OC bindings
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14:33 | supragya | [have you succeeded in creating a simple plugin, which can be called from script?] -will by tomorrow
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14:33 | supragya | mave to manage exams, assignments etc :)
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14:33 | supragya | tomorrow exam
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14:34 | supragya | BAndiT1983, will work on it.. tonight
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14:36 | BAndiT1983 | no problem, take your time for study first
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15:25 | TofuLynx | Hey!
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15:26 | TofuLynx | BAndiT1983, I am going to try to change the preview size now
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15:26 | TofuLynx | I mean, the image size*
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15:26 | TofuLynx | you said it wasnt fixed, right?
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15:30 | BAndiT1983 | you have to change the image buffer size, as it is used for preview
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15:30 | BAndiT1983 | cannot help much today, as i'm moving stuff to new apartment
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15:30 | TofuLynx | Ok! No problem! :)
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16:01 | supragya | Hi TofuLynx, How did you google coding event go?
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16:01 | TofuLynx | Hey supragya!
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16:01 | TofuLynx | I loved it, although didnt get a lot of points xD
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16:01 | TofuLynx | 4 million of points
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16:02 | TofuLynx | first place had close to 50 millions
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16:02 | supragya | 4m of point?
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16:02 | TofuLynx | yeah, the score
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16:02 | TofuLynx | but I am happy, once again a team of my university is going to the final
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16:03 | supragya | Team event? Like ACM ICPC?
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16:03 | TofuLynx | they were the 38º best team
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16:03 | TofuLynx | it's a team event, i dont know ACM ICPC
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16:03 | supragya | search it
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16:04 | TofuLynx | not the same thing
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16:04 | supragya | hmm
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16:04 | TofuLynx | it's open for everyone, not just universities
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16:05 | supragya | yeah... that
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16:05 | TofuLynx | and it's just 2 parts
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16:05 | TofuLynx | the online round - 4 hours
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16:05 | TofuLynx | and the final
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16:05 | TofuLynx | a really fast "hackathon"
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16:07 | supragya | "hackathon" - on a topic?
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16:08 | TofuLynx | they give a problem statement
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16:08 | TofuLynx | with inputs
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16:08 | TofuLynx | and you have to return the outputs
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16:08 | TofuLynx | the better the output, the better the score
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16:08 | TofuLynx | this year the problem statement was
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16:09 | TofuLynx | you control a fleet of autonomous cars, taxi-like cars.
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16:09 | TofuLynx | and you get a input of rides you have to take, at specified times and such, on a grid-like map
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16:09 | TofuLynx | and you have to distribute the rides along your fleet
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16:10 | TofuLynx | so that you dont lose any ride (overtime) and get bonus score for completing the ride undertime
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16:10 | supragya | more like a TSP so some sort
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16:10 | supragya | *of
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16:10 | TofuLynx | Teaspoon?
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16:10 | TofuLynx | xD
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16:10 | TofuLynx | what is TSP?
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16:11 | supragya | TSP - Travelling Salesman Problem
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16:11 | TofuLynx | oh yeah
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16:11 | TofuLynx | it's related to that in some form
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16:11 | supragya | It is a variant given you have less cabs than passengers
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16:11 | TofuLynx | do you want the PDF?
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16:11 | TofuLynx | containing the problem statement
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16:11 | supragya | send it over
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16:12 | TofuLynx | sent, check private chat
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16:14 | TofuLynx | it failed :(
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16:14 | TofuLynx | hmm
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16:15 | TofuLynx | https://www.dropbox.com/s/tww3avigalif7ua/online_qualification_round_2018.pdf?dl=0
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16:15 | TofuLynx | here is it
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16:15 | TofuLynx | :)
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16:19 | TofuLynx | -
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16:19 | supragya | internet slow here, idk why
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16:19 | supragya | will look later
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16:20 | TofuLynx | how are the network/internet infrastructures there in india?
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16:22 | supragya | It's more of a coding challenge than a "hackathon"
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16:22 | TofuLynx | I see
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16:22 | TofuLynx | Yeah, I can concur with that
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16:22 | supragya | [how are the network/internet infrastructures there in india?] - It's good now but not earlier
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16:22 | supragya | I am in clg, so get wifi
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16:22 | TofuLynx | Ah xD
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16:23 | TofuLynx | but I mean
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16:23 | TofuLynx | overall
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16:23 | supragya | but generally, for around 10$, we get 1GB per day for 84 days
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16:23 | TofuLynx | in the country
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16:23 | supragya | This is oveall
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16:23 | supragya | overall
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16:23 | TofuLynx | that's nice!
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16:23 | supragya | Take and add inflation... more like 15-17$ for 1.5GBper day for 84 dyas
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16:24 | TofuLynx | why exactly 84 days?
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16:24 | supragya | Funfact: search Jio revolution in india... U will understand
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16:24 | TofuLynx | Datagiri xD
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16:27 | TofuLynx | thats a great competition
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16:29 | supragya | Well because of this, we have 10$ for 84GB than 10$ for 500MB (earlier days)
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16:29 | TofuLynx | wow :o
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16:29 | supragya | (earlier days) - 2 years ago
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16:30 | TofuLynx | thats a big difference!
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16:30 | supragya | yes, for good
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16:42 | TofuLynx | supragya
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16:43 | TofuLynx | do you know where is the image buffer size on Processing Test?
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16:44 | nmdis1999 | Anyone online?
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16:46 | Bertl_oO | nmdis1999: nope, nobody here ...
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16:47 | supragya | [do you know where is the image buffer size on Processing Test?] - point me the source of your concern
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16:47 | supragya | nmdis1999, I guess there is someone, not sure
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16:48 | Bertl_oO | supragya: who would be here?
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16:48 | supragya | Bertl_oO, Bertl_zZ (means you are sleeping), Bertl (means you are here), Bertl_oO (means ___) ?
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16:49 | supragya | Bertl_oO, that's why I said not sure
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16:49 | nmdis1999 | I had a doubt which I asked last time, I think when I go offline and come back my I can't see chats when I'm not present.
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16:49 | nmdis1999 | So, I wanted to make sure.
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16:49 | supragya | goto irc.apertus.org
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16:49 | supragya | to see logs of chat
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16:50 | nmdis1999 | okay, thanks! :)
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16:50 | supragya | [I had a doubt which I asked last time] - ask again
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16:50 | Bertl_oO | well, the original meaning of _oO was otherwise occupied ... but somebody gave me a way better explanation: Operation Octopus :)
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16:50 | nmdis1999 | haha..great :D
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16:51 | TofuLynx | Bertl_oO So you are on Operation Octopus right now? :D
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16:51 | supragya | Operation Octopus - military operation? SWAT? SEAL?
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16:51 | Bertl_oO | yup, so no guarantee that I will answer in a timely manner
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16:51 | TofuLynx | some say its military... :)
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16:51 | Bertl_oO | top secret, world domination style
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16:51 | TofuLynx | who knows
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16:51 | nmdis1999 | I wanted to ask about T720, it's about sesnor calibration . I'm not sure where to start from.
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16:52 | nmdis1999 | I did read about things that affect sesnor calibration, and though it'd be better to know and learn more now.
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16:52 | nmdis1999 | Just for a headstart.
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16:53 | Bertl_oO | best check with se6astian|away when he is around
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16:53 | Bertl_oO | in any case you can start with T872 if you want to work on that
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16:53 | nmdis1999 | Yeah, the timezone is creating mess. I saw Alex and Sebastian are mentor of the task.
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16:53 | supragya | she has done C++c challenge Bertl_oO
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16:53 | nmdis1999 | I did completed T872
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16:54 | Bertl_oO | ah, great then
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16:54 | nmdis1999 | I guess I should mail him, he does frequently check his mail.
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16:54 | Bertl_oO | should work as well, but I guess he will be back soon (probably just driving home)
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16:55 | supragya | nmdis1999, he is here too many times
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16:55 | supragya | Bertl_oO, exactly
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16:55 | nmdis1999 | I see, I'll mail just in case. And be online. It's just midsem because of which I'm coming online less.
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16:55 | Bertl_oO | nmdis1999: so you got something to look at for me (for T872, just curious :)
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16:56 | supragya | midsem - same here
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16:57 | supragya | Bertl_oO, I guess you can have a look at mine and give some feedback
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16:57 | supragya | (didn't get rid of sh, just so you know... ) will make makefile soon
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16:57 | nmdis1999 | Same here, I'd love to get feedbacks.
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16:57 | Bertl_oO | well, point me to the source and I'll take a look
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16:58 | supragya | wait
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16:58 | supragya | Links are here: https://lab.apertus.org/T872
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16:58 | nmdis1999 | https://github.com/nmdis1999/Apertus-Qualification-Challenge
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16:58 | supragya | Funfact: TofuLynx made Github profile just for this XD
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16:59 | TofuLynx | That's not true :P
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16:59 | nmdis1999 | lol, great. I'm new as well. Really didn't do much on github.
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17:00 | supragya | Take my lead... here on github XD
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17:00 | Bertl_oO | nmdis1999: so, first thing I see is bad indentation and spacing
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17:00 | TofuLynx | I created Github profile in the beginning of the semester, for some university works :P
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17:00 | Bertl_oO | nmdis1999: e.g. #include<> -> #include <>
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17:00 | Bertl_oO | if( argc != 2) -> if (argc != 2)
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17:01 | Bertl_oO | //Checking the input -> // Checking the input
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17:01 | nmdis1999 | Okay, noted.
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17:02 | Bertl_oO | indentation is used to make the code more readable, i.e. if you enter a block of code, you indent the code block
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17:02 | Bertl_oO | for example line 39/40 is in the same codeblock
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17:02 | Bertl_oO | (they should have the same indentation level)
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17:03 | nmdis1999 | Yeah, I agree.
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17:03 | Bertl_oO | similar on line 50/51/55
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17:04 | TofuLynx | Bertl_oO when will you do the feedback with BAndiT1983?
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17:05 | Bertl_oO | during the student application period I guess
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17:06 | TofuLynx | ok :)
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17:06 | TofuLynx | if you don't mind, you can feedback my code now
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17:06 | TofuLynx | I would appreciate it
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17:06 | Bertl_oO | looking at supragyas submission now
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17:07 | Bertl_oO | also problems with spacing/indentation here
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17:07 | supragya | :(
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17:07 | TofuLynx | where?
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17:09 | Bertl_oO | line 64, 71, 87/88, 91, 110, 113/114 ...
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17:09 | TofuLynx | you mean, if (){, should be if () { ?
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17:09 | Bertl_oO | in general you want to have spacing between statements and conditions or similar
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17:09 | TofuLynx | ok!
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17:10 | Bertl_oO | so instead of if(a){ use if (a) {
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17:10 | Bertl_oO | same goes for while, for, etc
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17:10 | Bertl_oO | makes the code a lot more readable
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17:10 | supragya | how 64, 110?
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17:11 | Bertl_oO | 64: int main(){ -> int main() {
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17:11 | supragya | o_O, okay...
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17:11 | Bertl_oO | 110: if(row%2 ==0){ -> if (row%2 == 0) {
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17:11 | supragya | I was looking at it... thinking XD
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17:12 | Bertl_oO | also, indentation changes between two and four spaces in your code
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17:12 | nmdis1999 | Guess, we'll need to work on that. :P
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17:12 | Bertl_oO | e.g. 87/88 and 91/92 have 2 spaces
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17:12 | Bertl_oO | while 110/11 and 114/115 have four
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17:12 | supragya | It's because I copied code after the identation settings changed
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17:12 | TofuLynx | nmdis1999 , there is a code guidelines on Phabricator :)
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17:13 | supragya | It's general guidelines nmdis1999
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17:13 | supragya | Bertl_oO, what about line 141 - 147?
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17:13 | nmdis1999 | Yeah, I'll look that up.
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17:14 | Bertl_oO | supragya: well, I'm not a big fan of this kind of indentation, and if you do it, it should probably match the first line
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17:15 | Bertl_oO | but the Linux kernel uses that too, so it's okay with me
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17:15 | supragya | Bertl_oO, I am not too, but given it would cross the length (256 or something), this looked cleaner
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17:15 | Bertl_oO | personally I prefer to end the first line on ( and put all the arguments with a single indentation below, ending the last with )
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17:16 | supragya | Bertl_oO, Linux Kernel, you got my inspiration
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17:16 | Bertl_oO | okay, moving on to TofuLynx
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17:16 | TofuLynx | Looking forward for it :)
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17:17 | Bertl_oO | well, line 12/13/16 looks weird
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17:18 | TofuLynx | Oops, that was a copying issue
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17:18 | Bertl_oO | line 18 has the wrong indentation too
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17:19 | Bertl_oO | rest looks surprisingly good, you already got feedback? :)
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17:19 | TofuLynx | Nope xD
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17:19 | Bertl_oO | well done then
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17:19 | TofuLynx | Just a question
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17:19 | TofuLynx | Don't you prefer num % x?
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17:19 | TofuLynx | Thanks :)
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17:20 | Bertl_oO | it really depends on the situation
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17:20 | Bertl_oO | if (x%2 == 0) looks more readable to me than if (x % 2 == 0)
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17:20 | TofuLynx | Yeah
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17:20 | nmdis1999 | When will you guys do feedback though?
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17:20 | Bertl_oO | but the best solution is definitely if ((x % 2) == 0)
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17:21 | TofuLynx | Never thought that way
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17:21 | TofuLynx | Going to do it from now
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17:21 | Bertl_oO | nmdis1999: well, you already getting feedback here ... what feedback are you referring to?
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17:21 | nmdis1999 | Bert1_oO : that is indeed a good way!
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17:22 | nmdis1999 | I thought you all would do it together , like you BAndiT1983 and Sebastian :)
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17:23 | TofuLynx | Btw, who is Alex?
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17:23 | Bertl_oO | well, we will look through the submissions together during the application period and select the students for GSoC 2018
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17:23 | TofuLynx | Alex is mentor of the T722 but I don't know who he is
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17:24 | nmdis1999 | I see, @TofuLynx: Yeah, he is. I haven't talked to him as well.
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17:24 | supragya | Debayering challenge?
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17:24 | nmdis1999 | He is also mentor of T720
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17:24 | Bertl_oO | https://www.apertus.org/magic-lantern-getting-to-grips-with-axiom-beta-image-sensor-article-feb-2016
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17:24 | supragya | He is a guy from MagicLantern
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17:24 | TofuLynx | You will select students during the application period?
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17:24 | TofuLynx | Oh, that guy?
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17:24 | supragya | BAndiT1983 is Andrej
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17:24 | TofuLynx | It's the same Alex?
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17:24 | TofuLynx | Ok :)
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17:24 | TofuLynx | Is he on the chat?
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17:25 | supragya | I don't think so... but given nicks rule on IRC, unsure
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17:26 | nmdis1999 | I have talked to Andrej and Sebasian, and now Bert1_oO . But haven't seen Alex here.
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17:26 | Bertl_oO | let me rephrase that (as it is confusing): we will go through the applications and kind of interview the students together with their submissions to get an idea who is suitable for GSoC 2018 and who is not
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17:27 | Bertl_oO | the final decisions depend on how many slots we get and what tasks are top priority for us
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17:27 | TofuLynx | How does the slot system works?
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17:27 | supragya | Google gives them slots..
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17:28 | Bertl_oO | Google decides how many slots we get, we decide how many of those slots we can handle
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17:28 | TofuLynx | How do they decide?
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17:28 | supragya | I don't know how they end up with numbers
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17:28 | Bertl_oO | (usually we take all we get :)
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17:28 | nmdis1999 | How many did you guys got last year?
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17:28 | Bertl_oO | and then we have the hard choice to put students to the available slots
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17:28 | Bertl_oO | last year we got 3 slots
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17:29 | supragya | 3? i heard 2
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17:29 | Bertl_oO | note that you can still work on a task even if you do not get a slot assigned, but google won't pay for it
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17:29 | Bertl_oO | supragya: you heard wrong
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17:30 | TofuLynx | Supragya it was 3
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17:30 | TofuLynx | 1 gave up
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17:30 | TofuLynx | 1 was "given up"
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17:30 | TofuLynx | And 1 finished
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17:30 | Bertl_oO | yup
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17:30 | nmdis1999 | And it was the first time for apertus, right? I read on google site that they give few slots for first time organization .
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17:30 | Bertl_oO | yup
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17:30 | TofuLynx | So are you expecting more this year?
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17:30 | Bertl_oO | we didn't expect to get 3 slots though, usually newcomers only get 1 or 2
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17:31 | nmdis1999 | ^Exactly!
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17:31 | nmdis1999 | That's great you got 3.
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17:31 | TofuLynx | Hmm
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17:31 | Bertl_oO | well, I hope we get at least as many as last year, but time will tell
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17:32 | supragya | Bertl_oO, I didn't know 1 completed... so 1 gave up + 1 given up = 2 for me
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17:32 | TofuLynx | Is it that the older the organisation, the higher the number of slots it can take? And the slots not taken carry over to earlier organisations?
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17:32 | nmdis1999 | They usually don't decrease the slots, as far as I've observed the trend.
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17:32 | supragya | TofuLynx, Gnome gets like 22
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17:32 | TofuLynx | Wow, and are they old in GSoC?
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17:32 | nmdis1999 | I think it depends on how much applications and projects an organization have also + years of getting selected increase chances.
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17:33 | TofuLynx | Yeah same
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17:33 | supragya | Wow, and are they old in GSoC? - are you kidding me, they are one of the biggest organisations
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17:33 | supragya | also sympy
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17:33 | TofuLynx | Biggest organisation != Old in GSoC xD
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17:33 | nmdis1999 | @Bert1_oO : How many applications you guys received last year?
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17:34 | TofuLynx | 28 applications :)
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17:34 | nmdis1999 | I think he meant that they are quite popular.
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17:34 | nmdis1999 | Must be recieving a lot of applications.
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17:34 | TofuLynx | Yeah
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17:34 | supragya | Just see as we approach 12 March... I bet this IRC will be bloated as well
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17:34 | nmdis1999 | That's a big number.
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17:34 | nmdis1999 | Hahaha...I agree!
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17:35 | TofuLynx | Going afk, will be back soon. :)
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17:35 | nmdis1999 | Many people send applications to more than one organizations I have heard.
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17:35 | nmdis1999 | Bye @TofuLynx
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17:36 | supragya | nmdis1999, It is true
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17:36 | supragya | Truth be told, I did do selection tests for 3 organisations
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17:36 | supragya | But other 2 do not respond
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17:36 | supragya | So I belong here now
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17:37 | nmdis1999 | Oh well. But I must say this community replies and helps instantly. Which is wonderful.
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17:37 | nmdis1999 | In December, I was browsing stuff on Inkscape and Blender organization, it was hard to get help there I didn't got any response.
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17:37 | Bertl_oO | one more input on the challenge code:
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17:37 | nmdis1999 | C++ one?
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17:38 | Bertl_oO | only one submission contains a copy right, and none contains a proper license
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17:38 | supragya | TofuLynx?
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17:38 | Bertl_oO | you should make sure to have your copyright on code you write and you should also make sure to put it under a FOSS license
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17:39 | nmdis1999 | Is it for me @Bert1_oO?
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17:40 | Bertl_oO | that's for all three of you
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17:43 | supragya | Bertl_oO, will do
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17:45 | nmdis1999 | @Bert1_oO: Sure, I'll do that.
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17:45 | nmdis1999 | GTG now, have to study for midsem. Goodnight all. :)
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17:46 | supragya | good night Iti, nmdis1999
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17:49 | TofuLynx | Back
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17:49 | TofuLynx | Bertl_oO: So I have to put copyright on the code?
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17:49 | supragya | had some problem with buffers? TofuLynx
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17:50 | supragya | all of us yes
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17:50 | TofuLynx | FOSS license which one is? I put GPL v3
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17:51 | TofuLynx | Yeah supragya, although it's hard to describe it
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17:51 | TofuLynx | Wait a moment. Will explain in a second
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17:51 | supragya | put MIT
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17:51 | supragya | GPLv3 is good too
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17:52 | supragya | read it... never read what this license did
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17:53 | Bertl_oO | TofuLynx: code without copyright can not be used in any FOSS project ... and it can be easily stolen and integrated into proprietary codebases
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17:53 | TofuLynx | Makes sense
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17:54 | TofuLynx | Can you explain me how to put the copyright?
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17:54 | TofuLynx | Is it simply writing the license here?
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17:54 | supragya | Bertl_oO, who stops from using these codes in proprietary codebases?
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17:54 | TofuLynx | The license
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17:54 | TofuLynx | And the law
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17:54 | Bertl_oO | just put a line somewhere saying "Copyright (C) 2018 <Your Name>"
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17:54 | TofuLynx | Ah ok xD just that?
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17:54 | supragya | TofuLynx, yes, copyright is simply putting that line
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17:54 | TofuLynx | Ok
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17:54 | supragya | I would prefer to put the repository on license
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17:55 | Bertl_oO | for the license, it depends on the license you choose, they usually have a guide how to apply the license
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17:55 | supragya | MIT is simplest of them all
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17:55 | supragya | so go with it
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17:55 | TofuLynx | What's your preferred license Bertl?
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17:55 | TofuLynx | supragya I think I prefer GPLv3
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17:55 | TofuLynx | As it enforces open-sourceness on codes that use it
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17:56 | supragya | your wish TofuLynx
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17:56 | TofuLynx | Not sure if that is true though
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17:56 | Bertl_oO | I have my code under GPLv2 and the hardware under OHL v1.2 at the moment
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17:56 | Bertl_oO | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License_compatibility#Compatibility_of_FOSS_licenses
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17:57 | supragya | Bertl_oO, I have heard people like GPLv2 not v3... cannot recall why
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17:58 | Bertl_oO | http://www.ifross.org/en/what-difference-between-gplv2-and-gplv3
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18:00 | Bertl_oO | GPLv2 is not as strict as GPLv3 but not as permissive as MIT or similar
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18:04 | TofuLynx_ | Fixed the copyright issue :)
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18:04 | TofuLynx_ | it's just that line?
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18:04 | supragya | Fixed license but not copyright as of now
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18:15 | supragya | Bertl_oO, do you deal with OpenCine and VapourSynth, or BAndiT1983 is the one I should talk to?
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18:16 | Bertl_oO | BAndiT1983 is the right person for you
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18:17 | supragya | sure thing :)
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18:17 | supragya | Bertl_oO, BTW are you going to mail the hardware for someone working on it for GSoC?
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18:18 | supragya | Hi ymc98, how are you? Here for GSoC, I guess, right?
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18:19 | ymc98 | It'd be great if the priority list of tasks of the organization is posted here. Can increase my odds.
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18:20 | Bertl_oO | I'm not the person doing the mailing here either ... but we will make sure that folks working on hardware related tasks (FGPA, Kernel, maybe T724) will have access to the hardware (either physical or remotely, depending on the task)
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18:20 | ymc98 | Hello supragya, I'm doing fine. Thank you for asking.
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18:22 | supragya | Don't mention :), any projects you chose ymc98 ?
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18:23 | ymc98 | Not yet. I'm still working on the qualification tasks.
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18:23 | supragya | That depends on project doesn't it?
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18:26 | ymc98 | I'm going for projects on VHDL.
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18:29 | supragya | nice ! :)
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20:41 | nmdis1999 | Thanks sebastian, for the information. I'll check all the links that you mentioned. :)
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22:32 | Bertl_oO | nn
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