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2018/03/02

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supragya
Hi ymc98 !
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ymc98
Hi
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ymc98
Any pointers making draft proposal?
07:25
supragya
Not much... First GSoC try?
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supragya
Btw, what is your area of interest... the project on which you are putting forth the proposal?
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Bertl_zZ
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Bertl
morning folks!
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Bertl
ymc98: here some hints: http://teom.org/blog/kde/how-to-write-a-kick-ass-proposal-for-google-summer-of-code/
08:02
Bertl
http://write.flossmanuals.net/gsocstudentguide/writing-a-proposal/
08:05
Bertl
in general the same rules that apply for a CV also apply to a GSoC proposal: it should be nicely done, properly formated, well structured and easy to read, and last but not least, on topic :)
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Bertl
also, do not hesitate to present your proposal to us for review and feedback
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ymc98
Bertl : Thanks!
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Bertl
you're welcome!
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ymc98
It
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ymc98
is my first try
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Bertl
no problem at all, the community here will help you
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ymc98
supragya : I think I should consult my professor to select the proposal to put forth. I must take the pragmatic approach since it's my first time.
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TofuLynx
Hello!
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Bertl
off for now ... bbl
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supragya
BAndiT1983, something crossed my mind... for VS plugin
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BAndiT1983
yes?
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supragya
FFmpegSource2 plugin has this problem
14:26
supragya
No audio support in VapourSynth
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supragya
I don't see if we will need audio support
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supragya
or will we?
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supragya
as we are only concerned with Sequences like DNG
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BAndiT1983
first step DNG sequences, no need to jump ahead
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supragya
However, generally exports are done in sequence to remove lossy quality and an mp3/wav along with them
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supragya
first step DNG sequences, no need to jump ahead - sure
14:29
BAndiT1983
audio may come later, but it's seldom encoded in CDNG
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supragya
sure!
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BAndiT1983
have you succeeded in creating a simple plugin, which can be called from script?
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BAndiT1983
i mean without OC bindings
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supragya
[have you succeeded in creating a simple plugin, which can be called from script?] -will by tomorrow
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supragya
mave to manage exams, assignments etc :)
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supragya
tomorrow exam
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supragya
BAndiT1983, will work on it.. tonight
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BAndiT1983
no problem, take your time for study first
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TofuLynx
Hey!
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TofuLynx
BAndiT1983, I am going to try to change the preview size now
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TofuLynx
I mean, the image size*
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TofuLynx
you said it wasnt fixed, right?
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BAndiT1983
you have to change the image buffer size, as it is used for preview
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BAndiT1983
cannot help much today, as i'm moving stuff to new apartment
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TofuLynx
Ok! No problem! :)
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supragya
Hi TofuLynx, How did you google coding event go?
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se6astian
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TofuLynx
Hey supragya!
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TofuLynx
I loved it, although didnt get a lot of points xD
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TofuLynx
4 million of points
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TofuLynx
first place had close to 50 millions
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supragya
4m of point?
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TofuLynx
yeah, the score
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TofuLynx
but I am happy, once again a team of my university is going to the final
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supragya
Team event? Like ACM ICPC?
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TofuLynx
they were the 38º best team
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TofuLynx
it's a team event, i dont know ACM ICPC
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supragya
search it
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TofuLynx
not the same thing
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supragya
hmm
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TofuLynx
it's open for everyone, not just universities
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supragya
yeah... that
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TofuLynx
and it's just 2 parts
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TofuLynx
the online round - 4 hours
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TofuLynx
and the final
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TofuLynx
a really fast "hackathon"
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supragya
"hackathon" - on a topic?
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TofuLynx
they give a problem statement
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TofuLynx
with inputs
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TofuLynx
and you have to return the outputs
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TofuLynx
the better the output, the better the score
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TofuLynx
this year the problem statement was
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TofuLynx
you control a fleet of autonomous cars, taxi-like cars.
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TofuLynx
and you get a input of rides you have to take, at specified times and such, on a grid-like map
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TofuLynx
and you have to distribute the rides along your fleet
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TofuLynx
so that you dont lose any ride (overtime) and get bonus score for completing the ride undertime
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supragya
more like a TSP so some sort
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supragya
*of
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TofuLynx
Teaspoon?
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TofuLynx
xD
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TofuLynx
what is TSP?
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supragya
TSP - Travelling Salesman Problem
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TofuLynx
oh yeah
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TofuLynx
it's related to that in some form
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supragya
It is a variant given you have less cabs than passengers
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TofuLynx
do you want the PDF?
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TofuLynx
containing the problem statement
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supragya
send it over
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TofuLynx
sent, check private chat
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TofuLynx
it failed :(
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TofuLynx
hmm
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TofuLynx
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tww3avigalif7ua/online_qualification_round_2018.pdf?dl=0
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TofuLynx
here is it
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TofuLynx
:)
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TofuLynx
-
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supragya
internet slow here, idk why
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supragya
will look later
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TofuLynx
how are the network/internet infrastructures there in india?
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supragya
It's more of a coding challenge than a "hackathon"
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TofuLynx
I see
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TofuLynx
Yeah, I can concur with that
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supragya
[how are the network/internet infrastructures there in india?] - It's good now but not earlier
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supragya
I am in clg, so get wifi
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TofuLynx
Ah xD
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TofuLynx
but I mean
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TofuLynx
overall
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supragya
but generally, for around 10$, we get 1GB per day for 84 days
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TofuLynx
in the country
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supragya
This is oveall
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supragya
overall
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TofuLynx
that's nice!
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supragya
Take and add inflation... more like 15-17$ for 1.5GBper day for 84 dyas
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TofuLynx
why exactly 84 days?
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supragya
Funfact: search Jio revolution in india... U will understand
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TofuLynx
Datagiri xD
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TofuLynx
thats a great competition
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supragya
Well because of this, we have 10$ for 84GB than 10$ for 500MB (earlier days)
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TofuLynx
wow :o
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supragya
(earlier days) - 2 years ago
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TofuLynx
thats a big difference!
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supragya
yes, for good
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TofuLynx
supragya
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TofuLynx
do you know where is the image buffer size on Processing Test?
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nmdis1999
Anyone online?
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Bertl_oO
nmdis1999: nope, nobody here ...
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supragya
[do you know where is the image buffer size on Processing Test?] - point me the source of your concern
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supragya
nmdis1999, I guess there is someone, not sure
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Bertl_oO
supragya: who would be here?
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supragya
Bertl_oO, Bertl_zZ (means you are sleeping), Bertl (means you are here), Bertl_oO (means ___) ?
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supragya
Bertl_oO, that's why I said not sure
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nmdis1999
I had a doubt which I asked last time, I think when I go offline and come back my I can't see chats when I'm not present.
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nmdis1999
So, I wanted to make sure.
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supragya
goto irc.apertus.org
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supragya
to see logs of chat
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nmdis1999
okay, thanks! :)
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supragya
[I had a doubt which I asked last time] - ask again
16:50
Bertl_oO
well, the original meaning of _oO was otherwise occupied ... but somebody gave me a way better explanation: Operation Octopus :)
16:50
nmdis1999
haha..great :D
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TofuLynx
Bertl_oO So you are on Operation Octopus right now? :D
16:51
supragya
Operation Octopus - military operation? SWAT? SEAL?
16:51
Bertl_oO
yup, so no guarantee that I will answer in a timely manner
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TofuLynx
some say its military... :)
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Bertl_oO
top secret, world domination style
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TofuLynx
who knows
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nmdis1999
I wanted to ask about T720, it's about sesnor calibration . I'm not sure where to start from.
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nmdis1999
I did read about things that affect sesnor calibration, and though it'd be better to know and learn more now.
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nmdis1999
Just for a headstart.
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Bertl_oO
best check with se6astian|away when he is around
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Bertl_oO
in any case you can start with T872 if you want to work on that
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nmdis1999
Yeah, the timezone is creating mess. I saw Alex and Sebastian are mentor of the task.
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supragya
she has done C++c challenge Bertl_oO
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nmdis1999
I did completed T872
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Bertl_oO
ah, great then
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nmdis1999
I guess I should mail him, he does frequently check his mail.
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Bertl_oO
should work as well, but I guess he will be back soon (probably just driving home)
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supragya
nmdis1999, he is here too many times
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supragya
Bertl_oO, exactly
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nmdis1999
I see, I'll mail just in case. And be online. It's just midsem because of which I'm coming online less.
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Bertl_oO
nmdis1999: so you got something to look at for me (for T872, just curious :)
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supragya
midsem - same here
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supragya
Bertl_oO, I guess you can have a look at mine and give some feedback
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supragya
(didn't get rid of sh, just so you know... ) will make makefile soon
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nmdis1999
Same here, I'd love to get feedbacks.
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Bertl_oO
well, point me to the source and I'll take a look
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supragya
wait
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supragya
Links are here: https://lab.apertus.org/T872
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nmdis1999
https://github.com/nmdis1999/Apertus-Qualification-Challenge
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supragya
Funfact: TofuLynx made Github profile just for this XD
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TofuLynx
That's not true :P
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nmdis1999
lol, great. I'm new as well. Really didn't do much on github.
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supragya
Take my lead... here on github XD
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Bertl_oO
nmdis1999: so, first thing I see is bad indentation and spacing
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TofuLynx
I created Github profile in the beginning of the semester, for some university works :P
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Bertl_oO
nmdis1999: e.g. #include<> -> #include <>
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Bertl_oO
if( argc != 2) -> if (argc != 2)
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Bertl_oO
//Checking the input -> // Checking the input
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nmdis1999
Okay, noted.
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Bertl_oO
indentation is used to make the code more readable, i.e. if you enter a block of code, you indent the code block
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Bertl_oO
for example line 39/40 is in the same codeblock
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Bertl_oO
(they should have the same indentation level)
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nmdis1999
Yeah, I agree.
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Bertl_oO
similar on line 50/51/55
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TofuLynx
Bertl_oO when will you do the feedback with BAndiT1983?
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Bertl_oO
during the student application period I guess
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TofuLynx
ok :)
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TofuLynx
if you don't mind, you can feedback my code now
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TofuLynx
I would appreciate it
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Bertl_oO
looking at supragyas submission now
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Bertl_oO
also problems with spacing/indentation here
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supragya
:(
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TofuLynx
where?
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Bertl_oO
line 64, 71, 87/88, 91, 110, 113/114 ...
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TofuLynx
you mean, if (){, should be if () { ?
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Bertl_oO
in general you want to have spacing between statements and conditions or similar
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TofuLynx
ok!
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Bertl_oO
so instead of if(a){ use if (a) {
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Bertl_oO
same goes for while, for, etc
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Bertl_oO
makes the code a lot more readable
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supragya
how 64, 110?
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Bertl_oO
64: int main(){ -> int main() {
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supragya
o_O, okay...
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Bertl_oO
110: if(row%2 ==0){ -> if (row%2 == 0) {
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supragya
I was looking at it... thinking XD
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Bertl_oO
also, indentation changes between two and four spaces in your code
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nmdis1999
Guess, we'll need to work on that. :P
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Bertl_oO
e.g. 87/88 and 91/92 have 2 spaces
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Bertl_oO
while 110/11 and 114/115 have four
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supragya
It's because I copied code after the identation settings changed
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TofuLynx
nmdis1999 , there is a code guidelines on Phabricator :)
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supragya
It's general guidelines nmdis1999
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supragya
Bertl_oO, what about line 141 - 147?
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nmdis1999
Yeah, I'll look that up.
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Bertl_oO
supragya: well, I'm not a big fan of this kind of indentation, and if you do it, it should probably match the first line
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Bertl_oO
but the Linux kernel uses that too, so it's okay with me
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supragya
Bertl_oO, I am not too, but given it would cross the length (256 or something), this looked cleaner
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Bertl_oO
personally I prefer to end the first line on ( and put all the arguments with a single indentation below, ending the last with )
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supragya
Bertl_oO, Linux Kernel, you got my inspiration
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Bertl_oO
okay, moving on to TofuLynx
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TofuLynx
Looking forward for it :)
17:17
Bertl_oO
well, line 12/13/16 looks weird
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TofuLynx
Oops, that was a copying issue
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Bertl_oO
line 18 has the wrong indentation too
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Bertl_oO
rest looks surprisingly good, you already got feedback? :)
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TofuLynx
Nope xD
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Bertl_oO
well done then
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TofuLynx
Just a question
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TofuLynx
Don't you prefer num % x?
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TofuLynx
Thanks :)
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Bertl_oO
it really depends on the situation
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Bertl_oO
if (x%2 == 0) looks more readable to me than if (x % 2 == 0)
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TofuLynx
Yeah
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nmdis1999
When will you guys do feedback though?
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Bertl_oO
but the best solution is definitely if ((x % 2) == 0)
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TofuLynx
Never thought that way
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TofuLynx
Going to do it from now
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Bertl_oO
nmdis1999: well, you already getting feedback here ... what feedback are you referring to?
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nmdis1999
Bert1_oO : that is indeed a good way!
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nmdis1999
I thought you all would do it together , like you BAndiT1983 and Sebastian :)
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TofuLynx
Btw, who is Alex?
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Bertl_oO
well, we will look through the submissions together during the application period and select the students for GSoC 2018
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TofuLynx
Alex is mentor of the T722 but I don't know who he is
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nmdis1999
I see, @TofuLynx: Yeah, he is. I haven't talked to him as well.
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supragya
Debayering challenge?
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nmdis1999
He is also mentor of T720
17:24
Bertl_oO
https://www.apertus.org/magic-lantern-getting-to-grips-with-axiom-beta-image-sensor-article-feb-2016
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supragya
He is a guy from MagicLantern
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TofuLynx
You will select students during the application period?
17:24
TofuLynx
Oh, that guy?
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supragya
BAndiT1983 is Andrej
17:24
TofuLynx
It's the same Alex?
17:24
TofuLynx
Ok :)
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TofuLynx
Is he on the chat?
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supragya
I don't think so... but given nicks rule on IRC, unsure
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nmdis1999
I have talked to Andrej and Sebasian, and now Bert1_oO . But haven't seen Alex here.
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Bertl_oO
let me rephrase that (as it is confusing): we will go through the applications and kind of interview the students together with their submissions to get an idea who is suitable for GSoC 2018 and who is not
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Bertl_oO
the final decisions depend on how many slots we get and what tasks are top priority for us
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TofuLynx
How does the slot system works?
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supragya
Google gives them slots..
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Bertl_oO
Google decides how many slots we get, we decide how many of those slots we can handle
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TofuLynx
How do they decide?
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supragya
I don't know how they end up with numbers
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Bertl_oO
(usually we take all we get :)
17:28
nmdis1999
How many did you guys got last year?
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Bertl_oO
and then we have the hard choice to put students to the available slots
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Bertl_oO
last year we got 3 slots
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supragya
3? i heard 2
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Bertl_oO
note that you can still work on a task even if you do not get a slot assigned, but google won't pay for it
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Bertl_oO
supragya: you heard wrong
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TofuLynx
Supragya it was 3
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TofuLynx
1 gave up
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TofuLynx
1 was "given up"
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TofuLynx
And 1 finished
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Bertl_oO
yup
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nmdis1999
And it was the first time for apertus, right? I read on google site that they give few slots for first time organization .
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Bertl_oO
yup
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TofuLynx
So are you expecting more this year?
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Bertl_oO
we didn't expect to get 3 slots though, usually newcomers only get 1 or 2
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nmdis1999
^Exactly!
17:31
nmdis1999
That's great you got 3.
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TofuLynx
Hmm
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Bertl_oO
well, I hope we get at least as many as last year, but time will tell
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supragya
Bertl_oO, I didn't know 1 completed... so 1 gave up + 1 given up = 2 for me
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TofuLynx
Is it that the older the organisation, the higher the number of slots it can take? And the slots not taken carry over to earlier organisations?
17:32
nmdis1999
They usually don't decrease the slots, as far as I've observed the trend.
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supragya
TofuLynx, Gnome gets like 22
17:32
TofuLynx
Wow, and are they old in GSoC?
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nmdis1999
I think it depends on how much applications and projects an organization have also + years of getting selected increase chances.
17:33
TofuLynx
Yeah same
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supragya
Wow, and are they old in GSoC? - are you kidding me, they are one of the biggest organisations
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supragya
also sympy
17:33
TofuLynx
Biggest organisation != Old in GSoC xD
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nmdis1999
@Bert1_oO : How many applications you guys received last year?
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TofuLynx
28 applications :)
17:34
nmdis1999
I think he meant that they are quite popular.
17:34
nmdis1999
Must be recieving a lot of applications.
17:34
TofuLynx
Yeah
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supragya
Just see as we approach 12 March... I bet this IRC will be bloated as well
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nmdis1999
That's a big number.
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nmdis1999
Hahaha...I agree!
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TofuLynx
Going afk, will be back soon. :)
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nmdis1999
Many people send applications to more than one organizations I have heard.
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nmdis1999
Bye @TofuLynx
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supragya
nmdis1999, It is true
17:36
supragya
Truth be told, I did do selection tests for 3 organisations
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supragya
But other 2 do not respond
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supragya
So I belong here now
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nmdis1999
Oh well. But I must say this community replies and helps instantly. Which is wonderful.
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nmdis1999
In December, I was browsing stuff on Inkscape and Blender organization, it was hard to get help there I didn't got any response.
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Bertl_oO
one more input on the challenge code:
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nmdis1999
C++ one?
17:38
Bertl_oO
only one submission contains a copy right, and none contains a proper license
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supragya
TofuLynx?
17:38
Bertl_oO
you should make sure to have your copyright on code you write and you should also make sure to put it under a FOSS license
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nmdis1999
Is it for me @Bert1_oO?
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Bertl_oO
that's for all three of you
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supragya
Bertl_oO, will do
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nmdis1999
@Bert1_oO: Sure, I'll do that.
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nmdis1999
GTG now, have to study for midsem. Goodnight all. :)
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supragya
good night Iti, nmdis1999
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TofuLynx
Bertl_oO: So I have to put copyright on the code?
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supragya
had some problem with buffers? TofuLynx
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supragya
all of us yes
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TofuLynx
FOSS license which one is? I put GPL v3
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TofuLynx
Yeah supragya, although it's hard to describe it
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TofuLynx
Wait a moment. Will explain in a second
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supragya
put MIT
17:51
supragya
GPLv3 is good too
17:52
supragya
read it... never read what this license did
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Bertl_oO
TofuLynx: code without copyright can not be used in any FOSS project ... and it can be easily stolen and integrated into proprietary codebases
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TofuLynx
Makes sense
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TofuLynx
Can you explain me how to put the copyright?
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TofuLynx
Is it simply writing the license here?
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supragya
Bertl_oO, who stops from using these codes in proprietary codebases?
17:54
TofuLynx
The license
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TofuLynx
And the law
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Bertl_oO
just put a line somewhere saying "Copyright (C) 2018 <Your Name>"
17:54
TofuLynx
Ah ok xD just that?
17:54
supragya
TofuLynx, yes, copyright is simply putting that line
17:54
TofuLynx
Ok
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supragya
I would prefer to put the repository on license
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Bertl_oO
for the license, it depends on the license you choose, they usually have a guide how to apply the license
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supragya
MIT is simplest of them all
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supragya
so go with it
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TofuLynx
What's your preferred license Bertl?
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TofuLynx
supragya I think I prefer GPLv3
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TofuLynx
As it enforces open-sourceness on codes that use it
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supragya
your wish TofuLynx
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TofuLynx
Not sure if that is true though
17:56
Bertl_oO
I have my code under GPLv2 and the hardware under OHL v1.2 at the moment
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Bertl_oO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/License_compatibility#Compatibility_of_FOSS_licenses
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supragya
Bertl_oO, I have heard people like GPLv2 not v3... cannot recall why
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Bertl_oO
http://www.ifross.org/en/what-difference-between-gplv2-and-gplv3
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Bertl_oO
GPLv2 is not as strict as GPLv3 but not as permissive as MIT or similar
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TofuLynx_
Fixed the copyright issue :)
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TofuLynx_
it's just that line?
18:04
supragya
Fixed license but not copyright as of now
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supragya
Bertl_oO, do you deal with OpenCine and VapourSynth, or BAndiT1983 is the one I should talk to?
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Bertl_oO
BAndiT1983 is the right person for you
18:17
supragya
sure thing :)
18:17
supragya
Bertl_oO, BTW are you going to mail the hardware for someone working on it for GSoC?
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supragya
Hi ymc98, how are you? Here for GSoC, I guess, right?
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ymc98
It'd be great if the priority list of tasks of the organization is posted here. Can increase my odds.
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Bertl_oO
I'm not the person doing the mailing here either ... but we will make sure that folks working on hardware related tasks (FGPA, Kernel, maybe T724) will have access to the hardware (either physical or remotely, depending on the task)
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ymc98
Hello supragya, I'm doing fine. Thank you for asking.
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supragya
Don't mention :), any projects you chose ymc98 ?
18:23
ymc98
Not yet. I'm still working on the qualification tasks.
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supragya
That depends on project doesn't it?
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ymc98
I'm going for projects on VHDL.
18:29
supragya
nice ! :)
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nmdis1999
Thanks sebastian, for the information. I'll check all the links that you mentioned. :)
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good night
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nn
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