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09:38 | Bertl | morning folks!
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17:35 | toxitobi | good evening
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17:57 | se6astian | hello
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17:57 | Bertl | back now ...
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17:57 | simonrepp | o/
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17:57 | davidak | hello everyone
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17:57 | BAndiT1983 | good evening
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17:58 | toxitobi | hello
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18:00 | simonrepp | Alright, welcome everyone!!
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18:01 | simonrepp | We'll start in 5 minutes, until I'd like everyone who is planning to report on his latest progress to digitally raise his hand, so I can prepare a speaker's list for today's meeting :)
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18:01 | simonrepp | until then ... whoops sorry!
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18:02 | Bertl | not much to report but I can give a short update
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18:02 | se6astian | me too
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18:02 | BAndiT1983 | i'm also in
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18:02 | davidak | also short update
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18:02 | simonrepp | three volunteers added to the list! keep it coming :)
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18:02 | simonrepp | four!
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18:02 | simonrepp | i'll add myself - five
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18:03 | simonrepp | if you have any links that further document what you will report on, you can already prepare those :)
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18:04 | simonrepp | (which will help to keep your reports short ;) with the possibilty to get more details later/elsewhere, plus i can add those to the meeting minutes!)
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18:04 | toxitobi | you could add me too let's see what happens
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18:05 | simonrepp | great - added :)
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18:05 | simonrepp | Ok then let's start
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18:05 | simonrepp | First the one and only must have meta topic: Next meeting date :)
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18:06 | simonrepp | I propose 19h CET in 2 weeks
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18:06 | simonrepp | 16th Jan 2017
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18:06 | simonrepp | any contraindications to that?
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18:06 | Bertl | fine here
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18:06 | se6astian | fine for me
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18:07 | simonrepp | ok great, then this is settled!
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18:08 | simonrepp | Then I'd like to hear your latest progress since the last meeting, keep it short and fresh :) and we'll start with: Bertl!
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18:09 | Bertl | well, we had a nice x-mas time with Tim "mithro" Ansell
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18:09 | Bertl | and we had a chat about improving cooperation between him and us
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18:10 | Bertl | there is some overlap between timvideos and apertus/AXIOM because we both do HDMI, display port, and video in general
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18:10 | se6astian | also one of the main developers for timvideos Florence in France already has an AXIOM Beta dev kit
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18:10 | Bertl | he brought a preliminary version of a plugin adapter which allows to use AXIOM plugins on the opsis
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18:11 | Bertl | and we got "our" opsis board working with his help
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18:11 | simonrepp | timvideos is tim's company i assume? :)
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18:12 | Bertl | no, he works at google, and does video stuff as his hobby
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18:12 | Bertl | https://code.timvideos.us/home/
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18:13 | simonrepp | (thanks! further reading bonus points unlocked :))
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18:13 | Bertl | on the PCB front, I'm still working on some new shields (ESP32, HDMI)
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18:13 | Bertl | and on updating the SFE as well as the PMDO debug module
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18:14 | Bertl | hardware testing and rework was on hold as I've been rearranging my workplace over the holidays
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18:14 | Bertl | (to make more room for AXIOM related stuff :)
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18:15 | Bertl | the software side did not get any updates, because I currently lack a working Beta
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18:15 | Bertl | that's basically it from my side for today
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18:16 | simonrepp | perfect, thanks! passing the mic on to se6astian!
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18:16 | se6astian | I shifted most of my time/attention to pick and place machines recently
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18:17 | se6astian | you might have seen the videos of the liteplacer I sent to the team@ mailing list
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18:17 | simonrepp | watched it earlier .. sweeet \o/
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18:17 | se6astian | yesterday I switched to openpnp from liteplacers own software
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18:17 | se6astian | and its very promising already
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18:18 | se6astian | now I ll see how I can increase accuracy: slack compensation with small code additions
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18:18 | se6astian | I already installed eclipse and have the github source cloned
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18:18 | se6astian | we also produced a couple of PCBs in the meantime manually
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18:19 | se6astian | but hopefully more automatically in the near future
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18:19 | se6astian | on the other PnP machine fronts
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18:19 | se6astian | the visionplacer 3000D has no ship date yet so we will have to wait and see
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18:19 | simonrepp | amazing product name haha :D
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18:20 | se6astian | and we will continue our efforts to run the larger pnp machine at amescon with openpnp as well
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18:20 | se6astian | a guy responsible for the linux machine kit http://www.machinekit.io/ is looking into writing an openpnp motor driver for it
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18:20 | se6astian | visionplacer 3000D: https://www.smallsmt.biz/visionplacer-vp-3000d/
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18:21 | se6astian | on the website redesign front not much happened
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18:21 | se6astian | we will have a meeting on irc tomorrow at 19:00 CET
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18:22 | se6astian | hopefully before then I will know more about theme designing process
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18:22 | se6astian | our liteplacer additions and documentation (also openpnp related) is here: https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/Liteplacer_PnP_Machine_Notes
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18:23 | se6astian | thats it from me I think
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18:24 | simonrepp | great, next up is bandit - the stage's all yours!
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18:25 | BAndiT1983 | you can call Andrej, just using nick so people know who this is, e.g. in the lab
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18:25 | BAndiT1983 | i will report on OpenCine progress
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18:25 | simonrepp | ah cool ,good that you bring it up, really makes sense to include non-nick identifiers in the meeting minutes, i just don't know all the names yet :) so thanks!
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18:25 | BAndiT1983 | currently i'm approaching the checksum validation milestone, also awaiting notification from Nikos, as he was working on preview of MOV files with the help of QtAV/FFMPEG
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18:26 | BAndiT1983 | also a cleanup is on the list and also progress documentation, at the moment you can look it up in the task list in Lab, but wiki will also be updated soon
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18:26 | BAndiT1983 | that's from me for now
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18:28 | simonrepp | cool thanks, moving on to david!
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18:28 | mgielda | hi guys
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18:28 | simonrepp | hey michael o/
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18:29 | mgielda | sorry for being late, just popping in for a minute from a newyear holiday ;)
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18:29 | davidak | i was at 33c3 but haven't done much apertus related. i distributed some of the nice axiom beta flayers i had over from last year. we should plan something for the next congress: like having an assembly where we demo a beta and answer all the questions. i have attended the last 5 congresses so i know how things work there. i can help to plan but i don't want to be there all the time. I'm mostly volunteer as a video mixer or cameram
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18:30 | Bertl | IRC line limit ... last word "cameram"
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18:30 | davidak | I'm mostly volunteer as a video mixer or cameraman for the streams :)
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18:30 | simonrepp | (adding to that: there's a small possibility 34c3 might happen in vienna. but dortmund currently is the most likely candidate i heard yesterday :))
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18:31 | Bertl | is there a place where we can vote for Vienna? :)
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18:31 | BAndiT1983 | can i vote for Dortmund? ;)
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18:31 | davidak | i think they are still searching a good locatin
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18:31 | toxitobi | me too for dortmund
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18:31 | simonrepp | i think voting power comes with preliminary volunteer duty :D
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18:32 | mgielda | teehee
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18:32 | simonrepp | contact your local CCC outpost ;)
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18:32 | mgielda | on a related note, who's going to fosdem?
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18:33 | simonrepp | (david: more to report or shall we move on? :))
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18:34 | davidak | that was all
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18:34 | simonrepp | cool, then i'll jump in next
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18:35 | simonrepp | so the elmyra interview team talk went out since last meeting (thanks max, sebastian, andi, etc.!)
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18:35 | se6astian | hi Tim!
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18:35 | simonrepp | marcin from opensourceecology contacted me regarding elmyra but haven't gotten around writing back yet because quiet time of the year and such ;) but sounds promising
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18:36 | se6astian | 343views on TT12.1 already
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18:36 | se6astian | less than normal but with the holidays and everything its quite OK I guess
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18:36 | simonrepp | asides from that I did some more work trying to get the eagle beta PCB designs as 3d models into FreeCAD
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18:36 | davidak | simonrepp: OSE is a great project!
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18:37 | simonrepp | all the standard resistors, capacitors, etc. were in the standard parts library, so these are there already, now comes the part where the parts need to be found manually
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18:38 | simonrepp | i'll write a task in the lab (or maybe add to the quite similar one that already exists) and document further work and open tasks there
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18:38 | simonrepp | that's it from my side :)
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18:38 | simonrepp | toxitobi, you can continue! :)
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18:39 | toxitobi | thanks
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18:39 | toxitobi | Last time wasn't here, got the info too late so here i try to give a round up about enclosure design.
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18:40 | toxitobi | There are two main points that are currently under work first one is the placement of buttons and wheels to control the camera
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18:41 | toxitobi | the idea is to make those sit beneath a metalplate that is easy to exchange if you want additional functions
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18:41 | toxitobi | this plate should also fit into a grip so that you are able to get controls off the camera to a handle when your mounting the camera on rods
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18:41 | toxitobi | after holidays I'll start on this topic collecting the buttons and controlwheels CAD-data and then see how it fits into the concept and to make it work
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18:42 | toxitobi | another point is cost controlling of the enclosure and to find out how much manufacturing costs
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18:42 | toxitobi | I'll try https://www.plethora.com/ and also do it manually via excel and see how much time and material is necessary
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18:43 | toxitobi | that's it from my side
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18:43 | simonrepp | cool thanks!
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18:44 | simonrepp | that ends the regular speaker's list, anyone want to jump in spontaneously (eg. latecomers?) :)
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18:44 | simonrepp | otherwise i'll wrap up the meeting in 1 min
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18:45 | alexML_ | I'm also around, though not much to report that matches the rules (i.e. actively working on)
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18:45 | se6astian | one more thing to report
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18:45 | se6astian | the AXIOM Remote Plus had a first dev release
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18:45 | se6astian | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/AXIOM_Remote_Plus
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18:45 | simonrepp | (toxitobi: under which name should i add you to the report?)
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18:45 | se6astian | created by Phil Kerr in UK
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18:46 | toxitobi | Tobias is perfect if there are no others^^
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18:46 | simonrepp | not yet :) thanks
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18:46 | se6astian | Then there is this list
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18:46 | se6astian | https://wiki.apertus.org/index.php/APOCs
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18:46 | se6astian | AXIOM Community Points of Contact
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18:46 | se6astian | an invitation to expand :)
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18:47 | se6astian | on the simple enclosure front
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18:47 | se6astian | collaborating with alexis_chooks
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18:47 | simonrepp | quick differentitation between APOC / ecosystem?
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18:48 | se6astian | APOC is like a local ambassidor, its part of the ecosystem
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18:48 | simonrepp | ah ok!
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18:49 | se6astian | the simple enclosure HDMI holder part is pretty much complete
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18:49 | se6astian | which reminds me: Bertl please set asside those M1.2 (IIRC) srews for me to try
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18:49 | Bertl | will do
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18:49 | se6astian | The main body of the simple enclosure is still undergoing review by alexis_chooks
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18:50 | se6astian | if anybody wants to help on this front you are welcome
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18:50 | se6astian | I am waiting on the review to be completed before 3d printing more parts
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18:50 | se6astian | our own hackmd installation is pending
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18:50 | se6astian | notes.apertus.org it will be
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18:51 | se6astian | was promised to be completed this evening
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18:51 | davidak | nice
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18:51 | toxitobi | Maybe I could help Let's talk outside of this meeting
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18:51 | BAndiT1983_ | is it a replacement for wiki?
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18:51 | se6astian | toxitobi: great!
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18:51 | se6astian | more a replacement for google docs
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18:52 | BAndiT1983_ | can we have markdown for the wiki? ;) not a great fan of its syntax
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18:52 | davidak | se6astian: was the Team Talk sent to indiegogo backers?
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18:52 | se6astian | well mediawiki has its own kind of markdown syntax
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18:52 | davidak | i think i don't got a mail there
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18:53 | simonrepp | can i wrap up the meeting before we lose ourselves in too many topics ? :)
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18:53 | se6astian | davidak: yes: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/axiom-beta-the-first-open-digital-cinema-camera#/updates
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18:53 | simonrepp | (se6astian - anything else to add?)
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18:54 | se6astian | I am done, thanks
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18:54 | simonrepp | excellent!
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18:55 | simonrepp | then a big thanks to you all for attending and making this a shorter and still richer meeting than last time!
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18:55 | simonrepp | next meeting is in two weeks
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18:55 | se6astian | thanks for hosting it! :D
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18:55 | simonrepp | monday 16th jan 2017, 19h CET, right here
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18:55 | simonrepp | i'll be sending out the meeting minutes and announcement for next meeting later or tomorrow, depending on reamining energy :D
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18:57 | Bertl | thanks a bunch!
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19:01 | RexOrCine | Sorry I'm late. Couldn't be helped. First time I've sat down all day.
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19:01 | davidak | RexOrCine: we have just finished the meeting
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19:02 | Bertl | no problem, only one hour :)
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19:02 | RexOrCine | Only thing I needed to say really was a hi-key image of the Beta stack with and without third party eqpt attached on a white background is sorely needed.
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19:05 | se6astian | we are on it :)
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19:05 | se6astian | well it all depends on max currently
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19:05 | se6astian | and he is rather busy I am afraid
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19:05 | RexOrCine | Is it his camera?
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19:07 | se6astian | well he is a photographer
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19:09 | RexOrCine | I've got visitors from Spain (thats why i was late( back later.
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19:10 | se6astian | no worries, you can read up on the IRC log or simons summary that will be mailed out shortly
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19:30 | RexOrCine | I've read up.
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19:31 | se6astian | great
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19:31 | RexOrCine | So that notes.apertus isn't how it's going to look?
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19:31 | BAndiT1983_ | seems like server is not up
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19:32 | RexOrCine | Ah
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19:32 | davidak | it's not ready yet
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19:32 | RexOrCine | I spent some time looking at wood cutting lasers this week are you familiar with whats good?
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19:32 | BAndiT1983_ | is someone using phriction in Lab?
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19:33 | RexOrCine | https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1192&bih=561&q=Laser+cut+wood&oq=Laser+cut+wood&gs_l=img.12..0l10.4339.6385.0.8586.14.12.0.2.2.0.97.687.9.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..3.11.704.SNufsEdDvr0
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19:34 | RexOrCine | (Re; Enclosure options)
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19:34 | davidak | RexOrCine: that's really beautiful
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19:34 | RexOrCine | It would be a lovely option. Good machines seemed to be bobbing around the 20,000 to 30,000 Euro mark.
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19:35 | RexOrCine | However the university might have one?
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19:40 | davidak | or some hackerspace or fab lab
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19:41 | davidak | for example https://fablab.berlin/de/3-machines
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19:44 | RexOrCine | Aye. I'd be surprised if the Uni hasn't got one.
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20:13 | [philgrandeC] | Good eve all
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20:13 | [philgrandeC] | Thanks for the updates on the iirc meeting. Followed em both - and its pretty informative and interesting
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20:14 | se6astian | great to hear :)
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20:14 | [philgrandeC] | even if you are just a filmmaker who quitted programming int the time ruby came out
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20:15 | [philgrandeC] | i hardly regret it since you started the axiom project
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20:16 | [philgrandeC] | oh sorry - i really regret it ;P
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20:16 | se6astian | well maybe we can motivate you again to play around a little with the code?
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20:16 | [philgrandeC] | i would
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20:16 | [philgrandeC] | allready looked into
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20:18 | [philgrandeC] | but i allready spent all my time in movies
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20:19 | [philgrandeC] | but while you develop the tools it try to geather the crew to produce mainly based on free (as in Apertus n Beer ;) an/or osh,diy tech
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20:21 | [philgrandeC] | coming from both ends, the high budget buerocratic german ÖR Tv - and living in a region where beside that just absolut low budget approaches exist, there seems just this way ;)
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20:22 | [philgrandeC] | If we could expand days n time a bit like someone recently stated here, i'll spent those extra hours on code! ;P
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20:24 | [philgrandeC] | But back to the meeting: As en "Enduser" who just knows enough aboout software and electricity to "not be afraid" i've stuck emotional to the project like probably many other: pretty cool things you develop - but why dont you just finish the beta befor you start side projects
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20:27 | [philgrandeC] | today while reading up the meeting on iirc i realized for the first time, that there have to be designed much more "free" or fitting tools for your approach to mark the "o" for openess in regards to reproduction..
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20:29 | [philgrandeC] | well done folks! Thanks to the teamtalk crew and simon (for hosting and elmyra)!
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20:30 | [philgrandeC] | Sorry for typos n grammar - didnt write in english for a while
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20:32 | [philgrandeC] | Sebastian: i will - and i will have to i guess, as soon as i will have my beta copy. But for my copy you dont have to hurry anymore (if you did ;) - really get those projects done that makes the beta and its way different to anything else!!
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22:39 | se6astian | off to bed
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22:39 | se6astian | good night
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23:05 | Bertl | off to bed now ... have a good one everyone!
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