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05:22 | Bertl_oO | off to bed now .. have a good one everyone!
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08:14 | anuejn | good morning :)
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08:14 | anuejn | https://twitter.com/cr1901/status/1356042679608606721 hoooooraay :):):)
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08:15 | anuejn | this will make development for the routing fabrics & the usb3 plugin much more pleasent :)
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08:15 | BAndiT1983 | hi
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08:15 | BAndiT1983 | nice!
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08:35 | se6ast1an | great :D
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12:02 | Bertl | morning folks!
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15:57 | anuejn | I think I will not make it in time for the meeting :(
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15:57 | anuejn | so I will report now
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15:58 | anuejn | this week vup and me had a meeting on the current schematics of the micro r2.1
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15:58 | anuejn | one conclusion was that we want to test mipi rx before we spend much time on these board
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15:59 | vup | (Bertl was also part of the meeting :)
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16:00 | anuejn | so I began to write a mipi csi reciever (see https://github.com/apertus-open-source-cinema/nmigen-gateware/tree/master/src/lib/io/mipi)
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16:00 | anuejn | vup: oh whoops I wanted to write "had a meeting with Bertl" :see_no_evil:
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16:01 | anuejn | thanks to the great work of daveshaha (https://github.com/daveshah1/CSI2Rx) it was rather straight forward
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16:02 | anuejn | I also ordered magnet wire to patch one of the micros we have to do mipi instead of hispi
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16:02 | anuejn | this might enable us to test that without the need of new hardware
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16:03 | Bertl | off for now ... bbl
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16:03 | anuejn | Also I worked on refactoring the AXI reader and writer cores to be easier to understand and more generically usefull as a preparation for doing ethernet streaming
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16:03 | anuejn | that is still in progress but overall I am quite happy with the direction it takes
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16:04 | anuejn | also I looked a bit into raspberry pi camera modules and that it might be interesting to support these in some way with the micro r2.1
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16:05 | anuejn | especially since the Sony IMX477 image sensor provides a rather nice feature set and is available from different sellers on breakout boards that are compatible with the raspberry pi
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16:06 | anuejn | and there is documentation available
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16:06 | anuejn | maybe we can just add a fitting connector on the micro to optionally enable the use of these boards
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16:07 | anuejn | but we have to discuss that further
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16:07 | anuejn | thats it from me for this week :)
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16:08 | anuejn | maybe vup and Bertl want to report more at the meeting :)
| 16:08 | anuejn | is off for now
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16:36 | seb39 | Hello Bertl_oO, don't know if you remember but I did contact you before Christmas because I want to build a SATA module for the TE0714.
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16:36 | seb39 | I did generate the BOM list from the latest .sch file you shared with me (https://pastebin.com/KYxY5nm2) but I am a little bit confused because it's the first time I do this… If you have a little bit of time to help me, here's some questions I have:
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16:36 | seb39 | 1- Does LSHM-150-XX.X-XX-DV-A-S can be any height (https://wiki.trenz-electronic.de/display/IN/Module+Connectors)?
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16:36 | seb39 | 2- Does DSC11XX-3.2X2.5 is a DSC1102? And if yes, I have a lot of results on digikey. Which one should I buy?
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16:36 | seb39 | 3- If I respect the value, does the capacitors and resistors can be choose randomly? There's also a lot of results on Digikey.
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16:36 | seb39 | Thanks in advance for your help :)
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16:58 | se6ast1an | ah hi seb39!
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17:02 | se6ast1an | bertl will surely be able to help in that regard
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17:02 | se6ast1an | would you mind pming me your email address so we can stay in touch?
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17:02 | se6ast1an | see pm
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17:03 | osqar | H!
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17:03 | BAndiT1983 | hi
| 17:03 | Bertl_oO | is here ...
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17:04 | se6ast1an | meeting time!
| 17:04 | bluez | is here
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17:04 | BAndiT1983 | am here
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17:04 | se6ast1an | hi oscar!
| 17:04 | metal_dent[m] | is present
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17:04 | se6ast1an | welcome bluez!
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17:04 | se6ast1an | hi metal_dent[m]!
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17:04 | se6ast1an | so many people :D
| 17:04 | eppisai | is here
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17:04 | BAndiT1983 | as if gsoc were on
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17:04 | se6ast1an | :D
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17:04 | bluez | hehe
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17:04 | metal_dent[m] | :D
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17:04 | se6ast1an | metal_dent[m]: would you like to start the reporting as usual?
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17:05 | metal_dent[m] | sure, but i don't have much to report today i'm afraid ':D
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17:06 | metal_dent[m] | last week i spent most of my time reading the articles and blog BAndiT1983 sent me to properly understand the USB and exceptions etc.
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17:06 | metal_dent[m] | we are still trying to debug and further narrow down the USB problem
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17:07 | metal_dent[m] | and we're hoping to solve it soon so that further development can start
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17:07 | metal_dent[m] | that's it from me
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17:08 | BAndiT1983 | se6ast1an: are you still there?
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17:08 | se6ast1an | I am :D
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17:09 | se6ast1an | bluez: you wanna go next?
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17:09 | bluez | yep!
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17:10 | bluez | so i was finally able to reasonably finish my script, can readback/write bitstream through the devcfg (PCAP) interface
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17:10 | bluez | both full and partial
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17:10 | bluez | code here: https://github.com/Swaraj1998/xilinx-devcfg
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17:11 | bluez | the read error i had before turned out to be a tiny little mistake on my side... which took a big chunk of my time ':D
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17:12 | bluez | next, i'll try to write a bitstream with an LUT, which i will try to selectively modify, through partial reconfig
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17:12 | bluez | and i am also getting my parcel within two days... so i can set that up this week!
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17:13 | bluez | thats it from me :)
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17:13 | se6ast1an | excellent, many thanks
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17:13 | se6ast1an | any comment/questions from Bertl regarding bitstream reading/writing?
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17:14 | Bertl | everything is going as expected
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17:14 | se6ast1an | good :)
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17:14 | se6ast1an | then eppisai, you are next
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17:14 | eppisai | hi,
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17:15 | eppisai | Last week i read more about pic32, and correct few things about correct c++ coding style when it comes to pic32
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17:15 | eppisai | i am trying transition task
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17:16 | eppisai | was stuck in that, but after proper guidance i have done bit more in right direction
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17:16 | se6ast1an | https://lab.apertus.org/T1173
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17:17 | eppisai | i have added transition framebuffer to painter, and wrote the transition offset algo in visualizer rightnow...
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17:17 | BAndiT1983 | just a moment, why visualiser?
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17:18 | eppisai | well painter is giving me two framebuffers rightnow.. i calculate offset and copy content to new framebuffer, then display it on screen with opengl
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17:19 | eppisai | so, no two framebuffer at a time, only one framebuffer will be displayed
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17:19 | BAndiT1983 | okay, but copying is costly on the MCU, so you should also implement a proper algorithm to copy parts of framebuffer A and B to the display
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17:20 | eppisai | yea, i understand that now.. i just wanted to get that gist if this algo is working
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17:20 | eppisai | so just temprary thing
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17:21 | BAndiT1983 | ok
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17:21 | eppisai | thats it from my side :)
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17:21 | se6ast1an | sounds good
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17:21 | se6ast1an | you are aware we expect a video that blows us away with its sountrack right?
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17:21 | se6ast1an | *soundtrack
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17:22 | BAndiT1983 | darude- sandstorm?
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17:22 | eppisai | : D oh really, i thought that might be unprofessional.. well wait for next time then!! : D thanks :)
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17:23 | se6ast1an | cant wait :)
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17:24 | se6ast1an | ok BAndiT1983, your turn!
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17:24 | BAndiT1983 | alright
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17:25 | BAndiT1983 | last week was mostly busy with guiding eppisai and metal_dent[m], but also debugging the problems on the remote, looks like we have some memory corruption, investigation still ongoing, but it looks like there happens some copying of values in memory
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17:26 | BAndiT1983 | additionally started to debug USB problems and for that the code was boiled down to the minimum
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17:26 | BAndiT1983 | as it was reported last week by se6ast1an, the PCBs have arrived and currently we prepare the data for production, e.g. "pick and place" (PNP) coordinates for elements, which will be used for the auotmatic soldering of components
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17:27 | BAndiT1983 | script is adjusted, but now it needs some additional data, before we can continue with cross-checks by the manufacturer
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17:27 | BAndiT1983 | that would be it for now
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17:28 | se6ast1an | great, thanks for the update
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17:28 | se6ast1an | anuejn already reported here before meeting so if you want to read up on that here is the link:
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17:28 | se6ast1an | http://irc.apertus.org/index.php?day=01&month=02&year=2021#32
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17:29 | se6ast1an | quick updates from me
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17:29 | se6ast1an | most components ordered for the production run have arrived in a pile in front of osqar right now I assume
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17:29 | se6ast1an | there are 2 critical components missing and I am in the middle of writing emails to get an estimate for an ETA
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17:30 | se6ast1an | today I talked to the production guys again at tele about the stencil and learned that we need to engrave fiducials
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17:30 | se6ast1an | which I will add to the design this evening if everything goes well
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17:30 | se6ast1an | Bertl promised me to review the stencil until today so we should be ready to order it tomorrow
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17:30 | osqar | Were they send already or did you only receive an order confirmation?
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17:31 | se6ast1an | samtec is expected to take around 2 weeks, no shipment information yet
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17:31 | se6ast1an | farnell have listed the line status as "contact us" or so
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17:31 | se6ast1an | and rs I am reading right now
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17:32 | se6ast1an | on another front with packaging material
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17:32 | Bertl | se6ast1an: yes, the stencil will be reviewed after the meeting
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17:32 | se6ast1an | as we discovered that a full volume ESD foam packaging will be too expensive
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17:32 | se6ast1an | I created a concept of how we could create constructive foam elements only around certain box compartments
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17:32 | se6ast1an | https://paste.pics/1caacff851e9be89584a8e3c46eeeb88
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17:33 | se6ast1an | and drastically reduce the material amount required
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17:33 | se6ast1an | we could hot wire cut these sheets, or cnc mill
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17:34 | se6ast1an | will require a real world test at some point
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17:34 | se6ast1an | other news:
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17:34 | se6ast1an | gsoc 2021 org applications opened last friday
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17:35 | se6ast1an | we basically have everything together but I am awaiting reviews and green light from the upcoming mentors
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17:35 | se6ast1an | which are: Bertl, BAndiT1983, me and vup
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17:35 | Bertl | ah, you are going to mentor this year as well?
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17:35 | se6ast1an | probably, yes :)
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17:36 | se6ast1an | I ordered a stencil for the single hdmi plugin module from jlcpcb
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17:36 | se6ast1an | the plan is to build those on the diy pick and place machine at the factory hub
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17:36 | se6ast1an | as plugin modules are not part of the mixed panel and tele production run
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17:37 | se6ast1an | just got some more components from Bertl which I will also prepare for tele
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17:37 | se6ast1an | and 3d print custom trays this week for said components (chips in particular)
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17:37 | se6ast1an | with the esd safe filament I just got from Bertl
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17:38 | se6ast1an | thats it from me!
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17:38 | se6ast1an | osqar: do you have anything else to report/share?
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17:38 | osqar | Not really. I guess it makes no sense to send over the components I already received?
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17:39 | osqar | And I received the docs from our bookkeeping to send over to Tele.
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17:40 | se6ast1an | great
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17:40 | osqar | So we can proceed with the contract.
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17:40 | se6ast1an | lets wait for an answer on the ETA for the remaining parts before we decide if you should forward what you got
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17:41 | se6ast1an | production contract and balance sheets are 2 independent projects but good that you got them
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17:42 | se6ast1an | right then Bertl, your turn!
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17:42 | Bertl | Not much to report from my side, I was mostly busy with Axiom unrelated work
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17:43 | Bertl | So besides helping here and there and gathering the parts you got today, nothing to report here
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17:43 | Bertl | Stencil review will happen, as mentioned, right after the meeting
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17:44 | Bertl | That's it from my side ...
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17:44 | se6ast1an | right
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17:44 | se6ast1an | anyone else?
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17:46 | se6ast1an | then, MEETING CONCLUDED, many thanks everyone!
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17:47 | Bertl | thanks!
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20:23 | Bertl | seb39: hey, just read your questions on the channel
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20:24 | Bertl | yes, the height of the connector doesn't matter much, there are no 'bulky' components below the module
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20:26 | Bertl | also the signal integrity is quite good on those connectors so you should not have a problem with higher stacking heights either ... in general the cheapest available one is a good choice :)
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20:33 | Bertl | the DSC in our case a DSC1123CI2-150.0000, but any mems oscillator with suitable frequency and jitter values should work here (as long as it comes in the correct package :)
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20:34 | Bertl | and yes, for capacitors and resistors the manufacturer is up to you, you need to match the package size (typically 0402 for resistors) and the resistance/capacitance values
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20:35 | Bertl | for capacitors make sure that the voltage rating is 'good enough' so you do not end up with dramatically derated parts (10-16V X5R or X7R ceramic multilayer should be fine)
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20:36 | Bertl | let me know if there are any further questions ...
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22:15 | seb39 | Bertl: Thank you for your help, I appreciate!
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22:20 | Bertl | you're welcome!
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